I`ll join in, as long as I can be:
A smooth, sophisticated, debonair hunk with a chisseled jaw, boyish good looks, an Ivy league hairstyle, a witty raportt and an excellent range of one liners.
I want to be 6` 4"- 250 pounds of lean muscle-with a washboard stomach and have a golden tan.
I want to be intelligent yet approachable a friend to all- who`s guidance is sought by others.
I want to have a succesful chain of business` behind me from inherited wealth that I am on the board of but don`t work but I have continued my great great great grandfathers (who was one of the pilgrim fathers BTW) good works.
I wish to have a beautiful wife and children .
we shall summer on Nantucket and be invited to all the top social events and I shall be the envy of all my friends.
I wish to be refered to as Chad.
If I can`t be Chad for this game -I`m not playing and fucking off back to AAAT.
Actually -I have had a bit of an epiphany- I have decided to partake as me Cheeky monkey hirsute and on the small side -who had to set up his own business because he was virtually unemployable (too high opinion of myself you see)
Chad would bring nothing new to the party- to many of his kind already- on another forum.
For me this is pay back time - I have been too flipant and un observant of the fact that this is a clothing forum so, the answers I give will be honest true and serious.
I will go away and put my little thinking cap on and return to the subject with serious intent.
One caveat -Can I give my answers as to what I would actually wear ( as in what is already in my wardrobe) or what I should wear.
The reason I ask for clarity is I probably (other than some penny loafers or some ocbd) don`t have a great deal of Ivy clothing.
but do have (far too much) English country clothing.
It may be intresting to Establish a convergence or divergence of the two styles -English country/Ivy -which for all intents and purposes meet and shake hands under the banner of trad.
2) Taking the wife out for a night on the town -
So for me that means the West-End of London and it's a dark suit - Charcoal grey with all the usual Brooksy/Press 3 to 2 details. Cuffs on the suit!
The shirt may well be a White OCBD for this rather than the Blue. It would always be a solid shirt though, not a stripe.
For a tie I'd go with something a little rich - A silk foulard or Ancient Madder affair. Rich dark colours - Deep Burgundy, Dark Green, Dark Blue, maybe with some dull gold in the pattern too.
Plack Pennies for the shoes and very dark charcoal socks.
I'd wear a fawn fly-fronted Mac or a Brown Tweed Herringbone overcoat over the top. I wouldn't wear a more formal dark coat - I wouldn't want to look like I'd just come from work or anything, plus the Brown Tweed in London has more status as it sends out a more 'Gentlemanly' signal than a more orthodox coat would. 'You can tell I'm a Gent becasue I don't look like a Gent' is the mind-game that goes on in London.
We'd do supper either pre- or post- theatre with either drinks before or after depending on when we decided to eat. I may even have to suffer the opera or ballet. Drinks would be in a smart bar or a smart hotel bar. Mrs David hates pubs. At no point in the evening would my tie be loosened.
My life is hell.
j.
Small Dinner party for half a dozen friends.
Like Uncle-I live in the country I have a large country Giant vibrator -with a large refrectory table (seats 12) benches down both sides and a carver at each end- there is an old wood burning aga -that has been converted to oil burning and the floor is stone -this is where all our informal gatherings are held.
The food will be good and hearty, and almost certainly be something along the lines of Coq au vin , Irish stew, beef and dumplings, sausage casserole etc.- served with root vegetables and mashed potatoes- drinks will only be wine or beer- after I have served the first drink -all guests will be expected to then help themselves as and when their glass is empty-perhaps offering to charge the other guests glass where necessary.
Even though I am once again a non smoker - those who do smoke can light up as and when they feel like it without making appology ,before during and after their meal
I shall wear a marks and spencer -brushed cotton tattersall shirt (ecru base with mustard ,brown and green checking)
( best value for money tattersall shirts on the planet -I have one on today that is at least 12 years old the collar and cuffs are frayed and the cotton is thinner due to the amount of washing -just perfect)
I shall be wearing some house of Bruar heavy cord trousers in a mustard colour -flat fronted -turn ups.
(nearly as good as Cordings cords but a little roomier for lounging casually)
A nice v-necked muted green ( heathered/Flecked) lambswool jumper by Johnstons of Elgin ( quite a decent gorgr -ending between the second and third button.
Socks will be scott nichols green and red horizontal stripped -100% cotton with - deep vertical ribbing.
as we are at home and the atmosphere is casual.
my shoes will be my lugg soled -brown suede -horsebit -Gucci loafers.
After dinner and everyone is relaxed and slightly fresh from the alcohol and convivial company - I shall try and persuade everyone to have a game of strip poker and throw their car keys into the fruit bowl.
3) Drinking & playing pool with mates -
For me that's just drinking then!
I'm guessing this is nowhere too smart & we are in a pub not a bar or a club. An English pub and an English bar are quite different things. Pool tables are rare in bars (or clubs) unless they are the sort of places which cater to pub-people wishing to venture a little up-market but still bringing their lovely Prole-y pub-behaviour with them (Gawd Bless 'em!). This snobbery isn't mine, btw, this is just what England is like in my experience of the dear old place. If we are in a pub then we are in the country again. In London we'd be in a bar or club & be better dressed. Sharper.
Cord jeans more likely than Denim jeans.
Boats/Camp Mocs/Desert Boots, even.
Nothing special sock wise.
Pea coat or Field Coat or Cannadienne (It still smells!) or G9 or G4 or Carhartt Detroit over the top.
Underneath - No jacket! - At this time of year it's a BD & a Shetland. OCBD of any kind - plain, check or stripe. A Tartan BD even, as only the collar & cuffs are going to show (I like Tartan in the Autumn/Winter).
Instead of an OCBD & Shetland how about a Pendleton with a White-T underneath for a change? Be careful not to look to much like a Gay Lumberjack though especially in the country ("...We don't hold with them sort 'round here. Abominations be what they are.."). Always look in the mirror before going out.
In the warmer weather just a half-sleeve or polo shirt with jeans or really broken in slim cut Chinos, but more than likely jeans which wouldn't be Cord in the Spring/Summer - They'd more than likely be pale coloured canvas or twill. No socks. Boats or Camp Mocs.
Russell Athletic (no logo) sweatshirt with White-T undernath showing at the neck for that cool crew-on-crew look? Nice.
Lots of choices but pretty scruffy. Shorts, even, if we are out in the Beer Garden - 9", uncuffed, flat-front, Madras, Seersucker, Chino, old cut-down jeans or Khakis, old cut-down Reds...
j.
5) An afternoon's culture in Museum -
So I'd be in London again...
I'd go TJCJ again I think - Tweed Jacket, Cords, Jumper.
Maybe Khakis would be better though - Museums are always over-heated.
I'd wear old Brown Boats or Camp Mocs because I'd be on my feet all afternoon wandering around.
I'd leave my Mac & brolly in the cloak room...
Tan Cord Sack or Slack jacket with Khakis is another route - Candy striped blue/white OCBD, White-T underneath. Maybe an Oxford Grey sleeveless V neck... They have such 'schoolboy' charm...
No tie.
Comfy socks.
Maybe a Chambray BD? That would be quite creative - Khaki Cords (Cuffs!), Moss green or Donkey Brown crew neck, Chambray BD, Camp Mocs. Soft fawny coloured Sack or Slack jacket of plain Cotton or Herringbone Tweed (Not that I have a Tweed Slack yet...).
D.
Mrs.Monkey and I hit the town:
This will involve pre dinner drinks-a nice meal -and post dinner drinks.
So I wouldnt want to be too tightly done up-therefore no tie- It`s some years since I have felt the need to wear a tie other than when the sittuation arises and warrants it ( a formal occasion or club dinner etc.)
I would probably wear a black and white dogs tooth check- 2 button single breasted Jacket-(Daks) with a white spread collar shirt ( nice little tailoring company called Charcoal and chalk) a Red paisley silk pocket square.
Dark grey wool flannels flat fronted with turn ups- no belt loops but side adjusters ( had these tailor made a number of years ago-couldn`t find just what I was looking for any where)
grey and black argyle patterned socks.
Loake buckled monk shoe ( highly polished by my good self)
I would envisage the evening to be summer so no need for a coat for warmth- but you can never predict the precipitation so I will carry with me a lightweight stone /buff coloured mac by Wellington of Bilmore with a detachable leather collar.
If the evening goes Ok Mrs.Monkey will have too much sparkling white wine and want to return to the hotel-which I will off course accompany her to-once she is tucked up in bed -I will murmour something about not being tired just now and say I am going to the Bar for a nightcap- at which point I will head directly for Spearmint Rhino and ask for my pocket square to be "Perfummed" ( no doubt at a cost of a few hundred pounds)
Last edited by Cheeky Monkey (2007-12-06 05:27:57)
Drinking and playing pool with my mates.
It is in the really casual and laid back situations that I have made most changes in how I dress in the last 12 months.
12 months ago you would have got a completely diffrent answer.
I have taken to wearing Hugo Boss jeans recently HB1 model I love the fit and feel of them they are just perfect for me.( previously it was levi 505`s all the way)
I would wear one of my recently aquired Brooks brothers ocbd in either white or pink worn with a navy v neck cashmere sweater by Barrie of scotland if it is the white ocbd and a light brown v neck by the same company if it is the pink ocbd.
If Autumn a light green with a red and gold overcheck 3 button sb tweed
If summer -no sweater and (gulp) a ralph lauren congressman chino sack jacket 3 button patch pockets -hip pockets flapped -working cuff buttons.
shoes will either be some brown waxy leather sebago original penny loafers -(thankyou for the link uncle) that I have grown very fond of.
If winter rm williams craftsman or arnhem.
If summer and wearing loafers no socks.
I will be playing pool with a blond - a brunette and a red head (all femails before anyone re resurrects the gay trad thread)and we will be playing strip pool-an Item of clothing per missed pot -I will be showing the lucky ladies my pool playing prowess and they will all end up naked- at which point I will show them my prowess on the pool table etc etc.
6) Teasing an old chum's clit -
Shame I haven't got her in the evening in a bar - the clothes would be a little bit more interesting...
For this I'd be in London again because London is where all my old friends mainly are.
Being 42 with a broken back and a nose like a Toucan I'd want to be at my most youthful, spunky, dangerous, flirty & attractive best. Urbane, witty, funny, charming, disarming, knowing just when to introduce a little whistful pathos into the conversation and then suddenly to have her laughing her head off at something really inane straight away afterwards - In short the whole rollercoaster of fun which is the giddy world of romance -
(And I'd lean forward when I talked & look into her eyes too!)
Charcoal Grey John Smedley (Not black, but the really nice grey they do). Maybe a White-T underneath... No, in fact maybe not. Just the Smedley.
Khaki cord jeans, but well pressed & still smelling of washing powder (women like that).
Peacoat in the cloak room.
Grey sox & battered up old Brown Bass Boat shoes (scuffed white sole).
Maybe I'd get her into The Groucho to impress her. I've a chum who gets me in, I'm not a member. Being an old friend The Groucho would impress her because it's a place which meant something in the 80's. Sadly now though it's a nothing kinda place, but odds are she won't know that.
We wouldn't eat because that wouldn't be seductive or flirty enough. I'd get a nice bottle of red wine and a bowl of chips (no, really!) because finger food is always sexy and I'd put my head on one side when I talked a lot because it makes me look young and harmless. Chips are always sexy becasue they are forbidden fruit to London girls. After the chips will come the chocolate... (You have to have the right setting to pull the Chips trick though. 'Quod' in Oxord would work too). Oh - BTW, Chips are French Fries in England. Important to say that.
At some point when I gauge she is drunk enough I'll move from youthful and fun to youthful and really attractive - I'll do this by looking up at her from under my eyelashes a lot. I will hint at a bitter-sweet vulnerability only very slightly just to give myself the appearance of depth, but I'll mainly impress her with what fun I am and how I have this really lean cat-like body...
I will somehow avoid looking & acting like a metrosexual.
I will encourage her to touch my nose which always fascinates women & children. Without me ever saying a word she will somehow imagine that I'm really well hung because my nose is so strong and firm and full (I do hope my old pal mpscb is loving all this!).
... And then I will go back home to Mrs David & dear little Porkpie.
D.
That was fun!
More settings for me to dress up in?
Ta.
D.
Uncle what would you wear to attend:
1. a summer sporting fixture ( sport and venue your choice)?
2. A winter sporting fixture ( same applies)
3.A lap dancing bar
4.A wedding of a dear friend
5.the funeral of a dear friend
You are fucking good at this - and to be honest isn`t it nice to be chatting about clothes especially clothes in a setting and situation.
CM
Thankee Mr. Monkeee - I must do a little work now, but I love your suggestions & will revisit this thread to hit them.
Quite an inspired idea of Brownshoe's, playing this game.
And it's interesting too! I'm sure I'd behave better if I wasn't usually so bored online. I wouldn't need to troll up my own entertainment then.
D.
i'm going to switch to a mono wardrobe:
cordo tassel loafers
navy socks (if i wear socks)
white or blue boxers
white or blue oxford cloth shirts by brooks
khakis or grey flannels
braided leather belt
navy blazer
argyle and southerland tie (if i wear a tie)
every day and every place i'll be dressed the same
i'll be easy to recognize
Another quick one of these from Cheeky's list -
1. A summer sporting fixture:
Polo!
Sack Navy Blazer & pale, pale Khaki twill jeans. Jeans are very Polo. Trou. not so much.
No socks & Brown Boats or Cordo loafers.
Candy striped OCBD - Let's make it Burgundy/White (Not Red/White which looks a little cheap compared with Burgundy) as a change from Blue/White.
- And a nice striped surcingle belt - (Preppy lovers may swap this for a Ribbon belt) - Maybe have a little bit of fun with this item? Yellow on Navy single stripe? I have a Kent & Curwen one from the old Picadilly shop - A lovely weight & thickness. I find that Cordings make them too big & chunky. Hackett sometimes do nice ones too ...
Nice women, nice horses, fizzy drinks.
j.