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#26 2010-08-30 07:57:58

Yuca
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

As has been pointed out here 3 times - no external logos.  Cause for celebration to all lovers of style.  Surely that fact will limit the brand's success with the chav crowd (for want of a better term)? 

After all it was Burberrys' check, as a sign of the luxury brand, that caused them to be adopted by the masses.  As long as Smedley remains logoless it's just not obvious enough for most people nowadays - the logo has become the replacement for quality, and if quality is present most people cannot discern that.

John Smedley baseball cap anyone?

Oh and zuckermandl, please don't bash The Bishop.

(Couldn't resist.)


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#27 2010-08-30 14:10:59

Trojan
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking


Robbo what a fucking wanker you are.

 

#28 2010-08-30 14:15:13

Beatnik's ghost
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

That was rather droll...

 

#29 2010-08-30 14:19:46

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Contrary to lies of FNB and Woofboxer, I (and most of the other "Buff Bastards") have been banned from posting on this forum. There are only a few posters left so don't waste your time on here. This forum is dead and nobody cares.

 

#30 2010-08-30 16:19:20

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking


“No Room For Squares”
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"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#31 2010-08-31 02:57:54

Yuca
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#32 2010-08-31 07:25:11

robbo
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#33 2021-09-19 16:08:36

A Fine Sadness
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Bumped mainly for Yuca's trenchant observations on Burberry's check.  I cringe each time I see it.

 

#34 2021-09-20 04:13:45

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Nephew visited me yesterday. He pointed out that he was wearing a jumper I had given him years ago. Sure enough it was a beautiful light olive , crew neck John Smedley. I had given it away because I thought it was too tight for me but it fits him well and he is now my size. Apparently it's his favourite jumper. I was a bit miffed but then realized I was wearing a Pringle made in Scotland V neck given to me by my brother in law. We seem to do quite a bit of clothes swapping within the family.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#35 2021-09-20 04:26:17

A Fine Sadness
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

Good stuff, Robbie.  My late father handed over RL, Bean, Timberland shoes, jazz records and CDs.  We were both in Brooks suits for my elder daughter's first wedding back in August 2011.  He borrowed the suit from me and probably filled it out better.  Didn't Brooks call it their democratic suit or something of that nature?  Tan, I think - wash and wear?  Christ, she's been divorced and remarried.  Makes me feel very, very old.

 

#36 2021-09-20 05:01:03

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I find that it is possible to re cycle to others what I would call Ivy clothes because they are modest, understated type items of quality. Other types of clothes that are more 'flamboyant'  (or cheap) less so. Today we seem to live in a throwaway Primark society where older clothes are binned.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#37 2021-09-20 08:59:19

A Fine Sadness
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Indeed.  Just been looking in charity shops while my wife was swimming.  Horrible, horrible clothing in each and every one bar a rather decent Italian made wool overcoat in Oxfam, priced at £25.  Seemed reasonable enough but not my size.  Just been landed with an £85 bill for the soling and heeling of my favourite cordo wingtips.

 

#38 2021-09-20 11:19:29

Yuca
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Money well spent (re. shoe upkeep). I took a pair of shoes to a cobblers in Colombia once. That's one mistake I won't be making again. I now have 3 pairs of shoes that need new soles and my Red Wings are almost due some too. The latter I am going to try to get done in Mexico City whilst I am going to post the other 3 pairs to the US. It's going to be a hell of a lot of time, money and risk but I'm desperate.


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#39 2021-09-21 09:28:40

A Fine Sadness
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Virtually everything at Smedley is now a 'Classic'.  Which makes me deeply suspicious.  A bit like anything on Ebay from the 90s is now 'Vintage'.  Bells and whistles website that does not impress.

 

#40 2022-06-22 05:40:01

AFS
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Overground they remain...  And yet... 
In my neck of the woods, for whatever the reasons, travel a twenty mile radius of the Matlock area (Lea Bridge isn't far away) and you'll find Smedley in the local charity shops.  This has been the case for around the past twenty years to my knowledge.  I walked away from a mid-blue contemporary polo just the other week. 
But, quality-wise, are they holding their own?  In spite of the bland labelling, I think they probably are. 
The Japanese seem to like them.  Have they found favour in the USA? 
Some nasty designs and colourways, though. 
And to be found in TKMaxx?
Hmmm...

 

#41 2022-06-22 07:25:52

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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

Love Smedley. Fat Wellend Mods are a bit too fond of them, but they are still made with integrity in a UK factory, which is a real achievement given the collapse all around them. Only issue is that moths love their merino wool and I can't afford to blow £200 on a few insects' lunch. My first charcoal grey polo neck from The Ivy Shop was a thing of beauty.  Me and Ian had matching ones and used to admire each other in a deeply heterosexual way.

 

#42 2022-06-22 07:33:48

AFS
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

I am currently flirting with the idea of buying one of their sea island turtle neck offerings to wear with this summerweight TH jacket on quiet walks.  A simple pair of L.L.Bean jeans and my lovely Astorflex desert boots to go with aforementioned. 
The ladies who work in the offices and factory shop are very pleasant.  I expect Chris_H and Jeff Dexter found them so on their ventures Oop North.

 

#43 2022-06-22 14:04:36

AFS
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Slightly after the event (his posting) TRSs observation on Smedley still being made in a UK factory is duly noted - and compared with Chinese and Malysian tat being knocked out for Brooks Brothers.

 

#44 2022-06-22 14:49:19

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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

2RS - I diidn't know The Ivy shop sold Smedley?

I love their sea island polo shirts and bulk buy them usually in Indigo but here's the rub.

I go their factory store and they typically cost about £30 each. How can the full price on an Isis now be £165?

That's really big money.

 

#45 2022-06-23 01:23:47

Runninggeez
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@Alvey, I remember seeing them in the IS  window. I might be wrong but they may have done a cotton pique polo, as well as the Sea Island cottons/Merinos. This would've been mid 80's.

Last edited by Runninggeez (2022-06-23 01:24:06)

 

#46 2022-06-23 01:42:16

AFS
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

Is it true, does anyone know, that Connery was wearing Smedley in 'Dr.No'? 
I remember reading about sea island cotton shirts before taking my Eleven-Plus exam (well before) in the novels.  I think Fleming was a devotee.

 

#47 2022-06-23 01:53:11

Runninggeez
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

I think I remember an old advert of Billy Eckstine modelling a Sea Island cotton shirt.

 

#48 2022-06-23 01:54:31

AFS
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

In fact, RR&P was far too hasty in his original judgement.  The only chap I've come across wearing Smedley round here is Shaun Hoolan, the owner of 'Wild' in Nottingham (perhaps the best 'vintage' store in the Midlands, albeit more 'generic Americana' than Ivy League).  I've seen him wearing either a black or charcoal roll or polo neck with his raw denim and black Weejuns.  An interesting dresser, perhaps more 'Beat Mod' than Ivy.  Nice guy, and a former Russell Street shopper.

 

#49 2022-06-23 01:56:34

AFS
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

Billy Eckstine...  Everyone snap their fingers to his rendition of 'Satin Doll'... 

Cigarette-holder, it wigs me...
Over her shoulder, she digs me...
Out cattin'...  that satin doll...

 

#50 2022-06-23 13:50:10

AlveySinger
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Re: John Smedley: Too Overground Now For My Liking

Yes, Fleming always wrote about Bond wearing sea island shirts. Not polo shirts but dress shirts. Worn with a black knit tie.

Many years ago inspired by Connery/Doctor No I had Turnball and Asser make one to the same spec. Semi spread, cocktail cuffs, mid blue, sea island cotton

Big money, big mistake.

 
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