Yes things move on.

My twenty year old son buys lots of casual-clothing vintage via apps and actual shops. Things like YSL jumpers and old Fila mixed with prep basics.  It is a good, unfussy but confident look.  Shirts are button down, polo tops are brands we would think okay broadly.

I've personally let go a touch of worrying 'exactly how' Ivy something is.

A lot of this for some is pure fashion or scene association too. The Work Wear thing shows that and then the tweed stuff from Peaky Blinders.

I saw a guy on a train the other day with his mate, sat opposite me. Both in their early 60s I'd guess and looking full on Mods, talking about Stone Foundation, Weller etc. Off to see a band in Manchester I think. One had a nice candy stripe button down on, but it all a bit too full on in wanting to look MOD. Good for them in enjoying their time. I could see them looking at my shirt, green summer mac, Italian sunglasses etc. But I don't wantt to wear a uniform so glad my at this point and was glad my beard stops me looking too similar. 

'It's easy to see that you are one of us, ain't it funny how we all seem to look the same'. Sure you know where that's from.

I used to see a lot of people looking like me in Marketing, consulting and design - but even that is going with a younger generation coming to the fore and the casual clothing changes of this era.

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I also think CC had some relevant things to say about the nature of the Internet.

Isn't Ivy Style being 'curated' by someone else now and CC has faded from there?

I find the idea of 'curating' something, unless it is a collection of modernist furniture or dinosaur bones (e.g.) absurd and hilarious.  I see it whilst buying books on ABE.  Just current fashionable bullshit. 
If CC wants to go into pig-breeding that's fine by me.  People, as has been said elsewhere, move on.  Anyway, I believe our Woof had a drink with him in Manhattan and found him an all right guy.  Yes?

Actually with all the former TI posters who are from the US, I don't think trans-Atlantic ivy relations were ever in real jeopardy.

Unlike the sanctimonious giganta-woke prick, Chens did exhibit a sense of humour. I can remember him taking in a few on Talk Ivy by posting on here that he was starting a new job in London working for ‘The Rake’.

I don’t know the extent to which Chens had disconnected himself when I was banned from IS FB, but the new guy was in charge.
As for him dressing well, we can’t be talking about the same person. One time he posted pictures of himself wearing wooden clogs when he was out and about in the city, I mean - he’s not even got the excuse of being a Northerner.

Maybe the forum is old hat and everything that had to be said has been said 10 years ago but what interests me with this forum is the aspect of time. I used to suspect that some of the hard-line ivy posters would, in time, move on to wearing something else and forget what they once 'believed in'.

Inspired by the forum and having a formal meeting today, I'm full on Ivy.

LE Hyde Park Blue OCBD shirt, flat front blue trousers, RL  black/white herringbone 3/2 sack jacket, Olive Aquascutum mac, Pelicano light scarf and Sanders Oxblood Derby shoes  Citizen solar watch. Feels good to be out and about again.

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I'm not one for expensive watches for the sake of it, it is design I like more. Timex do some wonderful watches. Citizen are in the  £200 range and I like their clean face, simple designed ones. I like them because they are solar, which seems a decent way to go. I do have my eye on the nice Defakto ones from Germany which take the nice Mondaine look into a rigorous build.

Last edited by An Unseen Scene (2021-09-28 04:18:15)

I assume you're referring to the IS review of the Ivy Look book: http://www.ivy-style.com/clothes-mad-the-english-ivy-obsession.html

It hasn't aged well at all. Any legitimate criticisms are lost in a sea of bile from someone who clearly has no passion for ivy clothing, except perhaps as some sort of status symbol. Not his finest hour, to say the least.

Pipe-smoking golfer turns out to be an arse. Who would have thought it.

Last edited by Yuca (2021-09-28 20:21:56)

In the end, it boils down to Ivy being perceived as traditional in the USA and modern in UK (whatever the word 'modern' meant at the time.)

Now even the modern is traditional and it's all up for post-modern mix and match by people of this era. Just wear what you like and get on with it.  It's all up for grabs, nobody has 'authority' any more.

I appreciate Gant is long past its Ivy origins and original owners, but the email I received about their Autumn collection yesterday was ghastly yet New and Lingwood on Jermyn Street are doing GWY's 'soft tailoring' in deconstructued tweed jackets, unfused collar BDs, shawl collar cardigans and even caps with skull n bones.  https://www.newandlingwood.com/new-arrivals/grey-herringbone-single-breasted-decon-jacket.

It's now all 'in the mix' as used to be said about music back in the 80s.

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