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#1 2021-10-10 02:54:54

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'You Know Who I Am? I'm Mo Green...'

Twenty years after everyone else, my wife and I have just started watching 'The Sopranos'.  So far so good.  I think.  Not a scrap of 'Ivy' in sight (or did I blink and miss something?).  'Whoever sold you those suits must have had a great sense of humour'.  But, should I put on another inch, I'm going to change my wardrobe entirely and go in for those shirts with the big collars and pants with three pleats on each side.  Haven't noticed the footwear yet particularly, but I suspect there are neither wingtips or loafers.  Did the Made Men have a copyright on that kind of leisure garbage?

 

#2 2021-10-10 06:15:11

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You're in for a ride. It is something special. You'll soon have the hots for Dr.Melfi (and her armchair) and the baked ziti will become a mainstay at meal times. The clothes are just perfect, not a natural shoulder in sight, it's all 'flick-knife fashions' as you'd expect. As a study in deranged masculinity it is pretty wonderful, and Tony, well Tony, is just a magnificent beastly creation.

 

#3 2021-10-10 06:26:23

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Surprised my wife likes it.  I came to dislike all the De Niro/Pesci films very much, though I still like 'The Godfather' (Diane Keaton was just so lovely).  My favourite character so far is Uncle Junior (who reminds me of myself).  Dr. Melfi - when shapely legs on display - yes!

 

#4 2021-10-10 10:17:11

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Season 2 is actually often quite tedious but it improves after that. One of the few contemporary tv series worth a watch. The Wire is good too. Both can be found dirt cheap online and in charity shops. That's about it for me for contemporary dramas.

I finally started rewatching my Hill Street Blues box sets last night. I have seasons 1 and 2. The Hispanic officer (whose name I forget) often wears Brooks or similar BDs (it's from 1981 so of course the days of subtly beautiful soft collars). I'd love to get more seasons. I also wish I had a box set of the Sweeney. We had proper tv in those days.


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#5 2021-10-10 10:24:16

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One of these days I'll buy a box set of Breaking Bad. I saw a clip online that looked entertaining enough.


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#6 2021-10-10 10:26:27

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Quite a co-incidence.  We were just talking about buying 'Hill Street Blues', a favourite of mine circa 1984.  As for 'The Sweeney', I watched episode after episode with a large gin and tonic in my hand while my wife was in hospital during the winter of 2019.  Very variable.  Try 'The Sand Baggers', early episodes of 'Callan'.  But 'Hill Street Blues', yeah, wonderful.

 

#7 2021-10-11 03:45:55

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I think the Hispanic officer (possibly the nicest character) in 'Hill Street Blues' is called Ray.
Too much American TV is not good for us.  I don't think I've watched a contemporary American film in the cinema for about fifteen years.  Bad as English 'culture' is - and it is very bad, very irritating - what I've seen of modern American culture (and read and hear about it) suggests something very horrible (not to mention worrying) indeed.  And not only their politicians, but their Spacey-type celebrities ('Hey, I'm a gay Democrat and friend of Bill Clinton, I can do whatever I like').  'The Sopranos' makes me squirm in parts but then I laugh out loud at the Mafia-reference in-jokes.  So, last night, the reference to Mo Green himself. 
Time 'Gregory's Girl' had another viewing.

 

#8 2021-10-11 03:57:07

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A glimpse of loafers with a fringe, I think (what do you call those? kilties?) on Tony Soprano when he's taking Meadow for her 'Ivy League' interviews in Maine.

 

#9 2021-10-11 04:01:03

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I'm guessing we'll be seeing scenes of the wise guys on the golf course.

 

#10 2021-10-13 02:31:03

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We have; at least twice.
Gulped down Series One very quickly, watching up to four episodes in an evening.  Now awaiting Two and Three. 
Having sat in a few of those sessions myself over the years, I can fully relate to Tony Soprano and his mood swings. 
Time to sit down and watch 'The Godfather' and 'The Godfather 11', plus 'The French Connection' again.
If you haven't seen it, 'The Friends Of Eddie Coyle' is worthwhile.  The novel is even better.

 

#11 2021-10-13 02:35:36

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One to avoid, however, is 'Once Upon A Time In America'.  It has its moments but doesn't stack up to anything much in the end.  Leone overreached himself with that one - a long way from the great graphics and cheesy music of the first two 'Dollar' offerings.

 

#12 2021-10-13 02:40:04

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Loved the opening music to the Sopranos by Alabama 3. It always set me up for watching each episode. I thought the Sopranos was the best thing I had ever seen on TV and then I watched 'Breaking Bad'. I ended up binge watching BB. Just fantastic.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#13 2021-10-13 02:49:40

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I worked in West London, Notting hill gate from 1975-78 at the time The Sweeney was being filmed locally. Loved the programme and spoting the street locations.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#14 2021-10-13 02:52:25

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'We're the Sweeney son and haven't had any dinner'


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#15 2021-10-13 02:58:36

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'Breaking Bad' is on my list, together with 'The Wire'.  Since my wife's illness, then Covid, we haven't ventured out much on autumn or winter evenings.  I've also just ordered, after reading one of Yuca's posts, the first series of 'Hill Street Blues' and might take another look at 'NYPD Blue'. 
Away from American cop and gangster shows, 'Secret Army' and 'Enemy At The Door' are highly recommended for their fine acting.  I'm a huge fan of Bernard Hepton. 
'The Sweeney'?  The first episode, with the great Ian Hendry, remains a favourite.

 

#16 2021-10-13 03:54:29

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While we're on the subject, has anyone seen 'The Irishman'?  I began to take against the De Niro movies a few years ago after being quite keen from a young age.  His mannerisms began to grate on me somewhat.  A pity, because I still think 'Casino' is a pretty good piece of movie-making (Sharon Stone is outstanding). 
'The Godfather', though, is still out there on its own: that score, Pacino, Keaton, the whole atmosphere of it.  Caan is magnificent: eating dinner in his undershirt (vest, I suppose, to us).  Then there are the old-timers, like the great, hulking Sterling Hayden and slimy Richard Conte.  Wonderful.

 

#17 2021-10-13 09:44:16

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Get your trousers on you're nicked.

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some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#18 2021-10-14 11:05:57

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I was pleased as Punch to hear Grace Slick's voice in the episode where Tony (as a boy) witnesses his father kicking several shades of shit out of someone.  A look at Jefferson Airplane performing 'White Rabbit' on some American (I guess) TV show in 1967 reveals Grace to have been a very sexy, cheeky little madam.  And the others look rather cool in their hippy get-up.  Better Grace than Nico.

 

#19 2021-10-15 09:32:01

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Rene Enriquez was the nice, gentle detective in 'Hill Street Blues': Ray.  Sorry, Yuca, the arrival of Series One (prompted to buy it by your good self) had me thinking again.  Always had the hots for Veronica Hamel.

 

#20 2021-10-15 12:27:45

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Me too. She's still my type (i.e. as she was back then) and she had some nice outfits.


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#21 2021-10-15 12:41:02

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I saw her first.

 

#22 2021-10-15 17:24:13

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Let's be careful out there.


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#23 2021-10-15 17:30:20

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The Irishman - a retired Mafia hitman with a terminal illness being interviewed by a journalist who is writing his biography. The interviews take on the mode of a confession and he finally coughs to ‘disappearing’ Jimmy Hoffa, but the film is heavy going. The book is even heavier going but rich in detail, like the appearance of one Joe Biden who supposedly had a helping hand from the Teamsters in his election to the Senate during the 1970s.

Box sets - the only one I ever stuck it out with to the end  was Fargo. Generally I just lose interest, Breaking Bad, for example, I really got drawn into it for the first couple of series but sometime in Series Three I just stopped caring what happened to the principal characters. I find I can’t invest the time required to watch them.


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#24 2021-10-15 18:04:15

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I've not seen Breaking Bad so I don't know if it sustains the quality of its better episodes, but as I said earlier, a lot of season 2 of the Sopranos is pretty bad. (Fortunately it gets a lot better in later seasons.) And that's supposed to be the best series ever. So generally speaking I prefer films to series.


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#25 2021-10-16 11:54:04

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Skipping 'The Irishman' sounds like a good idea, methinks.  A long way from 'Mean Streets' and 'Taxi Driver'.  Still, I was a teenager when I first watched those, thinking De Niro the new Brando.  Times - and tastes - change. 
Thanks, Woof.

 

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