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#1 2021-10-15 04:44:34

A Fine Sadness
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JPGaul Style...

I would not want to hazard too many guesses.  In the UK - in fact, across a far wider spectrum - he is a legend in his own lunchtime - and the only man on the planet who could get me seriously contemplating buying a pair of Japanese jeans (the kind Sumo wrestlers wear). 
I used to think of him as the strong, silent type, in dark glasses, standing in a quiet corner, rather like one of those chaps you see hovering round any American President.  Graham Marsh might be giving the press interview, JP would be making certain the drinks hadn't been spiked. 
Seriously, if you haven't already done so, visit - or revisit - any number of shit-hot postings.  There is always (no, usually) something of value to be picked out of them regarding 'The Ivy Look'.  Simple - and pure - as that.  He changed my mind on so many things.  And not just clothing.
You'll have all read his books.

 

#2 2021-10-16 07:48:51

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JP Gaul leads a quiet life these days, and has managed to alienate many Ivyists and ex-associates over the years with his trenchant opinions and principled stances on clothes and other more significant issues. Most discussion about clothes is paralyzingly dull, this place post-Frost-Mellor being a prime example as portly middle aged men posted endless headless selfies of themselves in painfully dull clothes.  Frosty, and Andy, and others injected wit, mockery, the absurd and the political into the whole set-up and it once made for great reading.

 

#3 2021-10-16 10:26:04

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Oh please. I started on here in the JFM era and there was plenty of good stuff and plenty of completely inane crap. Towards the end of Jim's reign the bullshit was predominating and if he hadn't been stopped the forum would have undoubtedly bitten the dust. After his departure plenty of quality discussion and images were posted once again.

Not that it actually matters. If you want to misremember it like that, don't let me stop you.


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#4 2021-10-16 11:16:50

woofboxer
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Indeed some selective memory I think. During the time Yuca describes the Forum was the preserve of a cabal who saw themselves as insiders. Once that grip was loosened a few more Americans arrived who knew what they talking about and the sussed crowd took a back seat.


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#5 2021-10-16 11:54:20

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Yes, after JFM had taught people what Ivy was he was hounded out and thrifters like Berk Breath and that old gray- headed guy posted endless boring pics of themselves. But they were I suppose something to have a laugh at and pity.


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#6 2021-10-16 12:09:19

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Nothing wrong with thrifting.  I picked up a very nice 1980s John Smedley cardigan in charcoal this afternoon for £6.  Chap who sold it me had worked for the company and assured me it was worth £150 of anyone's money (if shopping in Harrod's).  Do they sell Smedley there?  I'd no idea.  Anyway it's just having a nice bathe in luke-warm water. 
Most of the charity shops around the Matlock area now seem to offer a few examples.

 

#7 2021-10-16 12:25:24

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Nothing wrong with thrifting most certainly.

But don't buy stuff that should be given away to the poor and needy.

And if you do want to keep it, don't confuse it with clothing that visitors to Ivy menswear sites want to look at every day. After a while, it stops being funny and just becomes sad.


If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#8 2021-10-16 12:34:07

A Fine Sadness
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This was from a cancer charity.  It's personal.

 

#9 2021-10-16 16:15:13

Yuca
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He's referring to Berkeley Breathes, not you. He had the temerity to come on here posting shots of himself in textbook ivy clothing.


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#10 2021-10-16 16:25:24

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Thanks, Yuca.  I was never really aware of BB to be honest.  I've seen his name here and there but nothing more. 
This particular charity shop had a rather nice pair of black penny loafers at an amazing £6 (I kid you not).  Reckoned to be a size 8, but were tight as hell, so I passed.  Shame, they would have buffed up beautifully.

 

#11 2021-10-16 16:27:45

A Fine Sadness
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Just as a matter of interest, what constitutes 'textbook Ivy clothing'?  I'd never quite thought of it in those terms.

 

#12 2021-10-16 19:53:55

Yuca
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Makers BDs, vintage Brooks sack suits, gunboats, foulard and repp ties, etc. Nothing unusual.

I think Sammy has a bee in his bonnet because BB was moderating here a while ago and something happened between the two. I have no more details than that, although I'm sure it's a riveting story and I'm glad Sammy is keeping it alive.

Here's an article about BB:

https://putthison.com/the-instagram-account-showing-ivys-more-eclectic-side/

He also had a write up from the new guy running Ivy Style, although that seems to have been deleted. A short while after the write up appeared, BB was unimpressed at some typically inane crap written in a different article by the new IS guy. Draw your own conclusions.

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#13 2021-10-16 20:56:18

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Sammy never had any dealings with Berk. He just came across as annoying little repetitive prat who alienated the interesting posters.

As for Berkhead's 'wardrobe', there is nothing wrong with classic styles as long as the clothes don't look as if they've been retreived from the trash and were meant for recycling or for donation to the homeless.

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#14 2021-10-17 02:42:57

A Fine Sadness
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But are the clothes not supposed to look 'lived in'?

 

#15 2021-10-17 04:40:01

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I can't, of course, admire the photographs of the poster known as BB.  But I can, all thanks to Woof's technical abilities/willingness to tip-off, browse a sample of his postings.  Where was the harm?  Why did it get up Sammy's hooter to such a degree?  The guy - in the USA, yes? - was wearing some clobber I'd be more than happy to turn over in some English 'vintage' emporium (chance would be a fine thing).  I didn't realise Press did poly/cotton either.  Wearing it did not bother some on here.  I dislike it. 
Just how many snapshots were there?  And hasn't the selfie now become standard schtick on IG etc.?

 

#16 2021-10-17 08:52:46

Yuca
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'Sammy never had any dealings with Berk.'

I stand corrected. Apologies.


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#17 2021-10-17 08:53:57

Yuca
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I doubt anyone who is an ivy fan would find fault in BB's outfits.


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#18 2021-10-17 14:21:59

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"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#19 2021-10-17 20:29:49

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Kingstonian said:

"Sammy, as I mentioned, his pal Stan was even worse. If I remember Stan said that he mostly wore T shirts and sandals as he now lived in a sunny location. So it was all memories and supporting the berk.

Mind you, there was little traffic here at the end so they were mostly talking to one another."

Yes. Poor Stan mistook his being honored as an elder statesman by JFM as something more than an act of kindness and tried to rule the roost with Berk, who he clearly had a crush on. Nothing wrong with crushes but the result was a boring forum, which became a safe-haven for Berk  and Poundshop Crusty to display their thrifting on the one hand and mediocrity on the other, and for Stan to thrill folk with his tales of teeshirts, shorts and bony knees.

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#20 2021-10-17 20:53:48

Yuca
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What utter crap. The forum post Jim was boring to you because you're not into ivy. With Jim there were endless tedious threads about what an arse Chens is (true of course but not exactly a fascinating subject), endless tedious threads about a certain London clothes shop in the 1980s (a part of the ivy story obviously but not significant or interesting enough to base the forum around), not to mention endless bragging, tall stories, name dropping and insulting people who he thought hadn't displayed sufficient antipathy towards Chens. Entertaining I suppose in the same way that watching the Titanic sink might have been.

You obviously have little to no interest in ivy and are only here to try to stop the forum from taking off again aka trolling. Your unhealthy obsession with BB, Stan and the memory of JFM is bizarre, to say the least.


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#21 2021-10-17 21:39:26

Sammy Ambrose
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For one who was brought into the world of Ivy by JFM, Yuca,  you might consider the wisdom of having a little more respect.

You might also try to recall how the whole forum collapsed in the end - I don't only mean the bit which concentated on applauding Ivy at its most pathetic - but  the whole forum.

What had begun, before your time, as an antidote to repetition and sad iGentery ended in  a great yawn.


If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#22 2021-10-17 22:32:27

Yuca
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Yes Jim did indeed bring a lot of traffic to this forum. That's no excuse for his efforts to destroy the place.

To you this forum, post Jim, was and is a big yawn. To a fan of ivy clothing, this forum was and is worth a read. It doesn't have the drama it used to have it's true, but then it's talk ivy, not talk incessant, repetitive, tribal bullshit that Sammy finds entertaining.

You are well aware that this forum will never be like it was, so why are you here? You appear to have no interest in anything other than repeating the same statements i.e. the forum used to be great then went crap; Jim was great; BB and Stan were terrible. That might be your idea of a good way to spend your time but your fun is at the forum's expense.

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#23 2021-10-18 01:44:46

A Fine Sadness
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I wish I was wearing - if not t-shirts and sandals in a sunny location - then a Madras shirt and canvas shoes.  Sipping something tinkling with ice-cubes.  Late October in England has little appeal.  Watching 'The Godfather' last night I longed to be in Sicily.  If it wasn't for those damn snakes. 
Er, the thread itself was intended to be fairly light-hearted, only turning a tad serious towards the end.

 

#24 2021-10-18 01:47:52

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For me Autumn onwards is when we can wear tweeds, jumpers, coats, scarves, caps, shoes and the like. I enjoy its style more than the warmer months. It was fun to put away shorts and polos this weekend and bring down the warmer clothing.

 

#25 2021-10-18 02:24:08

A Fine Sadness
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True.  One of those excellent herringbone overcoats you refer to on your new thread feature on my 'shopping list'.  I fancy something rather honey-coloured than, say, grey (if that makes sense).  I've been seeing a few in movies lately and they remind me of a Brooks I once had featuring a velvet collar.  I knew instinctively, however, after wearing it once, maybe twice, it belonged on a taller man.

 

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