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#51 2021-11-19 13:40:18
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Re: Woody Allen: Just How Straightforward Was His Look?
Even if you throw in a pint of cider.
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#52 2021-11-19 15:07:52
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Re: Woody Allen: Just How Straightforward Was His Look?
Jdemy.Great post on Woody style.
Many Jews who want to look part of the establishment?
Not sure if this is so accurate though.
Sure, there were many Jewish merchants who sold to WASP’s but at the same time I know a lot of members of the tribe who dress conservatively but have no aspirations of looking like they’re something else.
I for one make a concerted effort not to look too Trad British as it’s not my clothing vernacular. No Hackett, Jack Wills or spread collar shirts.
#53 2021-11-19 18:01:46
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Re: Woody Allen: Just How Straightforward Was His Look?
The history of Jews being on the outside and longing for establishment confirmation (and by extension, absorption and visual assimilation) is pretty well established fact, I would think. Whether it is the anglicizing of last names or the former ubiquitous practice of straightening noses thought to look too Semitic, at the very least the conflict was there. I don’t know •what• a purely Jewish style of dressing would be as Jews are too diverse a group from too many scattered places to have one look, but I know that since the great German Jewish banking families arrived in NYC they’ve been dressing in chalk stripe suits for work and playing tennis in traditional country club whites that have nothing to do with the shtetls many (not all) emigrated from. Look at images of Groucho Marx in billowing white linen pants and you’ll maybe see what I’m driving at. But perhaps I’m going back in history too much and you’re referring to more modern examples and traditions.
#54 2021-11-20 00:50:31
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^ I enjoy reading these slight digressions. One of JFMs Jewish 'mentors' is always known as 'Paddy'. The other is Jim.
#55 2021-11-23 16:00:25
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Just finished a double bill of 'Bananas' followed by 'Annie Hall'. Watching Woody's style every step of the way, reminding myself that I owned a tartan shirt around 1990: very similar. Yes, that jacket at the rally for Stevenson is very nice indeed - the old Brooks 'work horse'? Trying to make out what kind of shoes - those brown shoes with an off-white bottom - he was wearing, sprawled on the bed with Janet Margolin, I think it was. One or two nice button-downs in 'Bananas'.
#56 2021-11-24 02:54:18
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Is it a look that is entirely his own? Can it be borrowed, improved on? The first - perhaps - the second - doubtful. Everyone knows it's Woody. I rather like the way he looks after playing doubles, but I could never attempt it myself (too old, too much stomach). But the chambray shirt, pleated chinos, olive bucket hat of more recent times - maybe, given time. The check shirt/tweed jacket/denim look I like a lot.
#57 2021-11-26 03:02:24
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'Flappy'. Take a look at the trousers: in 'Annie Hall' (designed by Ralph Lauren?) and in the documentary 'Wild Man Blues', shortly after he gets off the plane in Paris. That's not a look, I don't think, that would find favour with many in the UK, where high-waisted and tapered is the goal/norm. There remains 'uncoordinated' and even slightly ragged. Some of the clothes look well worn, particularly knitwear around the neckline (a common problem I've found whether it's come from Brooks, Paul Stuart or Alan Paine). No surprise perhaps that TRS favours 'Yale'.
#58 2021-11-26 12:33:47
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Woody seems to favour a slightly looser look.
I’m not just talking about the Seventies but his style overall.
Must admit I do like his tweed jackets but the wide lapel has dated badly.
Ralph Lauren has tried to resurrect the wide lapel on several recent occasions.
His latest attempt are the RL 67 sports jacket.Not a fan. I feel for this look to work everything need to be in appropriate proportions .Wide lapels with skinny low rise trousers look ridiculous .
#59 2021-11-26 12:52:05
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The only time wide lapels looked good was the 1940s.
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#60 2022-04-17 05:37:33
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Meade's biography discusses the clothes from time to time. There are several pages of photographs. Then take a look at Woody on TRSs Instagram page. Plenty of consistency. I'd reckon he started off with a kind of JD look in the late 40s (before he started wearing glasses). Plaid shirts (Ralph Lauren) in winter are mentioned, for sessions down at 'Michael's Pub'. But dig those ugly, shapeless shoes he's sometimes pictured wearing later on (when Farrow look like a bag lady, not at all the honey she was in 'Rosemary's Baby'). I guess you look like that when you're rich, famous and nothing else truly matters.
I've never heard that he was a John Simons shopper.
Did Ralph Lauren (or, I suppose, one of his people) really design the jackets?
#61 2022-04-19 09:08:23
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I should imagine that Woody bought off the peg from Polo. Being that slender I bet he had no problem fitting most things off the rack.