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#26 2021-12-02 10:58:35

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Re: Christmas Reading: For Your Consideration...

I'd have enjoyed that, Robbie.  He was no fool; knew when something was just fakery.  Also good on modern architecture in terms of how a kind of Soviet style managed to find its way into the western world: the UN building?  Fascinating on Duchamps, Oppenheim et al.

 

#27 2021-12-02 12:16:43

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Re: Christmas Reading: For Your Consideration...

I'm not trying to antagonise you AFS, nor am I seeking a debate on the topic, but out of interest: are you in agreement with David Irving re. the Holocaust? I only ask because your post mentions him in a positive light implying that you are so I think it's better you clarify.


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#28 2021-12-02 12:25:53

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Re: Christmas Reading: For Your Consideration...

This is so pathetic it isn't worth answering.  In fact, fuck off.

 

#29 2021-12-02 12:34:08

Yuca
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A yes or no would suffice. Read your fucking post: you mention the guy out of nowhere and only state positive things about him - the obvious implication is that you are in agreement. Yet that (perhaps) contradicts your other posts.

Now I genuinely don't know if you are a Holocaust denier, or you consider such a school of thought to be so reprehensible that it's obvious any decent person wouldn't subscribe to it, so you consider it an insult to be asked to deny it.


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#30 2021-12-02 12:36:01

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Re: Christmas Reading: For Your Consideration...

Have a look at my comments away from 'Talk Ivy'.  Not Suitable For Work...  before you make a complete twat of yourself.

 

#31 2021-12-02 14:15:46

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Re: Christmas Reading: For Your Consideration...

I was in a thrift shop and found a weekly Cape Cod Guide book from 1956. Buried in it was a nice advertisement for The Andover Shop. Amongst other things, they mention a fine selection of shetlands.

I always end up reading A Christmas Carol around this time.

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#32 2021-12-02 14:56:58

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A few years ago I was in Harrods book department and came across Twas the night before Christmas as a pop-up book.My daughter must of been about seven or eight at the time and I immediately bought given that it was so beautifully illustrated with the pop-ups as silhouettes.
As I work in a creative industry the cardboard engineering is something I really appreciated.
It has now become a tradition that I read it to my family just before we go to bed on the 24th. Followed closely another family tradition - my daughter reminding me that we're Jewish!

 

#33 2021-12-02 14:58:44

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Jdemy,
That guide book sounds an excellent find.
It would be interesting to see how much of it is still applicable over 60 years later.

 

#34 2021-12-02 16:36:36

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In the same thrift shop, years ago, during their “best of the season??  sale (when they sell the great items donated by really rich people) I found a first edition, pop-up book signed by Edward Gorey. The Dwindling Party.

 

#35 2021-12-02 16:48:12

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And speaking about ‘Twas the Night Before Christmas—— years ago - maybe 25 or so- I saw that a little church on Hudson street in Greenwich Village where I live was throwing out all sorts of antique ephemera.  My best friend had attended the school that was established inside the church as a kid, so I found old years books of his and such. But I also found an invitation to a Christmas gathering being hosted by Clement Clarke Moore- the writer of ‘Twas the Night before Christmas! He had founded the little church (and others nearby).

 

#36 2021-12-03 04:19:19

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Re: Christmas Reading: For Your Consideration...

Yes, we'll be reading 'A Christmas Carol' and, probably, extracts from 'The Pickwick Papers'.  We always watch 'Scrooge' with Alistair Sim on Christmas Eve. 

I intend reading more verse in the New Year.  Poets like Housman and Edward Thomas.

Housman: 'Into my heart an air that kills...'  One of our half dozen greatest poets.

 

#37 2021-12-03 04:20:45

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^ Edward Gorey.  Terrific!  I spent a fortune buying his books in 2015.

 

#38 2021-12-05 15:52:23

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Re: Christmas Reading: For Your Consideration...

I just spent the afternoon reading up on David Irving. Wow.  The fact that Holocaust deniers even exist always seems to me to be an unconscious admission by the denier of their actual belief in the Holocaust; only something as patently obvious as gravity, a round earth or the Holocaust could be the subject of denial. The Holocaust requires weak people to deny it—- not because it never happened - but because it is too hideous for them to acknowledge it happened. In some perverse way, the highest form of acknowledgment is a bunch of losers saying ‘No! NEVER! This never happened— I won’t accept that reality!!’

 

#39 2021-12-06 01:47:54

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I was scheduled to meet him at three.  His daughter met me and showed me into the sitting-room.  I could hear him typing in another room.  This would be at around four minutes to three.  He came into the sitting-room, told me I was early, then went and typed until three precisely.  Make of that what you will.

 

#40 2021-12-08 06:03:40

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Re: Christmas Reading: For Your Consideration...

Whether you're interested in the subject or not, treat yourself to 'Beer And Skittles' by Richard Boston, once a journalist on 'The Guardian' and a great humourist.  I expect it helped.  I've read it several times.  Any pubgoer on here should find it a joy.

 
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