300 quid's worth? At the prices you pay that must have been enough to fill a large house.

I love the chappie who is 'running out of patients'.

He's a fruitcake.

I've never owned a pair of bucks, white or otherwise. I have considered it. I wouldn't go for white if I did as I have an aversion to white shoes.

I have, to my deep chagrin, reached my 'guest viewing' limit on that forum for today.  I was rather enjoying myself, interspersing visits there with reading up on Malevich, Tatlin and the other Russian Constructivists and eating pastrami with horseradish on toasted wholemeal bread.  The spat was just brewing nicely and I hope to catch up with the latest over the next day or two.

I have just visited Dressedwell and was surprised by how many negative comments there were on just the one topic. Some of them were just downright rude.
What surprised me the most was that on a forum about clothing why people feel the need to be discourteous. I really don't see the point.
I don't understand why people want to visit a forum like Talk Ivy with the intention of mocking either the content or the members.

It can be first - no, third - rate entertainment whilst drinking a cup of instant coffee (double-stirred, I might add - very Ivy).  This new poster has a lot to say for himself and has been butting heads with their old Bongo Player (who is more than capable of standing his ground.  The other fellow, who is a semi-literate chucklehead, may as well call it quits). 
On the other hand I was interested in what he had to say on the subject of certain Ivy items rarely finding their way into the UK wardrobe: loud check jackets and the majority (if not all) of GTH bits and pieces.  I have experimented.  They almost always fail to work except in a rather light-hearted manner.  I treated myself to an OS Madras newsboy cap before Christmas, fancying it might make me look like a whitebread Monk.  It doesn't.  Of course it doesn't.  I knew all along it wouldn't and paid $40 just to find out. 
Is it all through diffidence?  I don't believe so.  Back in the old days on here, the Ivy-Prep-Trad wars raged.  I never gave much of a stuff.  But instinct tells me - just as when I'm buying an item of Finnish glass - whether I'm right or not.  Simple, humble, well-made.  You can't go too far wrong.  Can you?

(For what it's worth - and I'm doubtless repeating myself - JFMs gay Jewish 'mentor' spoke of Ivy League dressing as 'a display of a lack of display'.  People would (sometimes) look you over without being at all certain as to what they might be seeing.  I think Paddy and Jim Stone favoured conservative, undarted Brooks suits.  They spent a lot of money on their clothes.  I never heard anything about GTH or vaguely preppie items until they retired.  Paddy took the trouble to discuss with me how to wear an item of knitwear so that the viewer examined your face and not the item of clothing.  That was, more or less, relegated to 'the background'.

I also had a nose over there. As always I'm at a loss to understand how grown men can get so worked up over a style that they have no interest in. Have lost interest in. Or have limited knowledge of. I know nothing about heavy metal music or fashion. I don't choose to create a thread with the sole intent of poking fun at those that do. It's not my business.

There's that one chap who kind of started off having a go at defending Ivy League Style, but only within the context of old american Ivy schools, and unbelievably, choosing to use photos of holocaust deniers as part of his argument. He's not able to comprehend that yes, that is where the strongest influence has it's roots, putting aside the original's misguided, often uninformed and much overly romanticised idea of how The British dressed and acted (creating something great in the process. No doubt), but it has grown and evolved in the UK to include many more influences and styles. (Not least a lot of what we'd loosley call 'continental').

In fact I would argue that over here, and although in very small numbers, if that counts for anything, many of us have been confident enough to completely jettison a fair amount of what a lot of the uninformed would percieve as original, american, Ivy League Style.

In among his last few posts I think he let himself down by admitting his admiration for the sloane/country squire look. A style which most right minded Brits, whether interested in 'The Look' or not, would be very dismissive of.

He, and a lot of them over there on DW, seem to be under the impression that we're engaged in some kind of cosplay exersise, and feel compelled to point and have a giggle at where we're going wrong. They're completely on the wrong track. Which is ironic given that they've named that thread 'The trainwreck'.

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Prince Andrew is a 'grubby little breast'.  Just had to share that one.  Thanks, DW!

A good question

https://www.dressedwell.net/threads/ivy-where-from-here.10276/#post-298822

Well you certainly won't find it amongst the assembled intelligentsia of 'Dressed Well'.

TwoRussellStreet said:


"Well you certainly won't find ( the answer to ' Ivy Where From Here') amongst the assembled intelligentsia of 'Dressed Well'."

Well come on over and enlighten, TRS.  The bouncer might frisk you at the door, but once you are in, you can backdrop and spin all you like.

Can it really hurt?