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#1 2008-01-08 10:30:45
- AQG
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The End of Trad as We Know It?
I was having a look at STP today and clicked on the following Southwick sack suit:
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/91006,92445_Southwick-Plaid-Sack-bbSuitandbandb-Super-120s-Wool-For-Men.html
The description contains the following astonishing copy:
Southwick borrows a little styling from the sack coat… a suiting tradition that started in France and worked its way into west wear in the 1800s.
France? France! Can this be true? Are the votaries of New England style scampering (hopping?) about in grenouillesque style?
#2 2008-01-08 10:38:40
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Re: The End of Trad as We Know It?
Maybe David wrote the description. He's always talking about going to Paris. Maybe he found the true roots of trad. It could be a miniseries. Roots: the way of the Trad.
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#3 2008-01-08 10:42:46
- Taylor McIntyre
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Re: The End of Trad as We Know It?
This is all news to me.
Funny that America then sold the style back to France post-WWII over & over again.
#4 2008-01-08 10:47:26
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Re: The End of Trad as We Know It?
I have found the following shred of evidence to support the French theory:
http://www.waltontaylor.com/sacksuit.html
What does this do to the roots of the great American style? There seems to be more of Bordeaux than of Boston about the garment. Are all of those darts and pleats really more red-blooded USA after all? Is all Trad just a continental pose?
#5 2008-01-08 10:51:19
- Taylor McIntyre
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Re: The End of Trad as We Know It?
And the US South was very French...
#6 2008-01-08 11:02:08
- mike
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Re: The End of Trad as We Know It?
New Orleans esp.
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#7 2008-01-08 11:04:15
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Re: The End of Trad as We Know It?
Well, the French were supportive of the rebels during the Revolutionary war, no? (LaFayette, Benjamin Franklin in Paris etc, etc. http://people.csail.mit.edu/sfelshin/saintonge/frhist.html)
#9 2008-01-08 11:11:45
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Re: The End of Trad as We Know It?
"You will find that men of style and their adherents are considered either political enemies of the people or reckless, gluttoness consumers while most live in squalor" - FNB
#11 2008-01-08 12:39:59
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Re: The End of Trad as We Know It?
Not a bad idea, David. Especially as the debate about the Tradliest ski resorts must now shift from Vermont v. Colorado to Chamonix v. Grenoble.
EDIT: Does our new evidence about Trad Francais mean that the Tradliest regimental tie is not regimental at all but rather the Tricoleur? Should pants be embroidered with Le Coq Sportif rather than lobsters?
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#12 2008-01-09 11:16:57
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Re: The End of Trad as We Know It?
Me? Conspicuous? Lady, I'm the invisible man.
#13 2008-01-09 11:22:48
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Re: The End of Trad as We Know It?
Well what could be more trad than French toast? Nes pas?
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