'They' being our American friends, thus picking up on something Horace touched upon in a thread on knitwear, in which he said that he and his kind embraced UK knitwear very readily (and made me rethink my approach - something I value). So, yes, the sweat is theirs, is it not, and not always easy to get right/obtain/know exactly what to wear it with (besides the question of colour). Some, too, will be put off by poly/cotton.
This is not an original thread - it does not purport to be - I (and many others) were asking searching questions about the perfect American sweat shirt years ago. I still remember the one I had from American classics (Pike Brothers, I think, Turkish-made) in that classic shade of mid-grey. I wish I could remember if it was cotton or poly/cotton (probably the latter).
I've just bought another - dirt cheap. Made In The USA. Mid-grey, poly/cotton. But the Russell Athletic items, bar one, the first I bought, have already fallen out of favour, just because the detailing was slightly off. Either the colour or the overall presentation was displeasing.
Can they really be worn with anything other than jeans/chinos/khakis/shorts?
AFS,
Saw a chap on Insta. Plain grey sweatshirt from Chiltern Street with dark blue denim shirt underneath. Not chambray, that's more like a grey colour but a proper, rich blue.
This looked awesome.
I’ve put finding the perfect sweat to the back of my mind. The well thought of ones with correct detail (and sans fake US Navy type logo) are in the main just more than I want to pay for such a basic item.
If nothing else the ones I’ve tried on tend to be quite square and boxy. Being long in body they just hang wrong on me.
I have managed to stumble across two or three over the years that are okay. Mix doesn’t bother me hugely, haven’t checked but I think mine are 100% cotton. Light grey or navy only please. Definitely need that stitched overlapping ‘v’ on the neck. Raglan sleeve preferably.
I wore them over a T for years until it dawned on me that they look great over a bd with beat up jeans or khakis.
Yes, I must dig out both a B.D.Baggie denim shirt I have (very pleasing collar roll) and a Duck Head chambray.
'Utilitarian' - as you said before, Alvey - 'pared down', 'kicked back'. It often suits a particular mood, doesn't it? After all, Ivy League should not be too 'florid'.
I think I paid around £80 for the Pike Brothers item. That would be in about 2008 or 2009.
Colourwise, I fancied beige and picked up an old Levi-Strauss USA-made v-neck from a seller in Bulgaria. When it arrived, though, the colour seemed slightly wrong and it was more like a poly/cotton jumper than a sweat. So I let it go, together with (amongst other things) a Russell Athletic for L.L.Bean item that, examining it from every angle, looked plainly wrong on a chap of my advancing years - as though I might be on my way to smash up a 'phone kiosk or mug some old dear.
The original - in mid-blue (almost navy) - although XL still looks okay, but may not for much longer if I shed more puppy fat.
For £25 you can't really go wrong with a Uniqlo sweat. Obviously it won't be as good as a Spalding from Clutch - but I doubt if one of those is nine times better!
I've got two plain mid grey sweats, one from Uniqlo and another that I bought in a Levi's shop in Brussels when we were staying and it was freezing and I hadn't packed enough warm clothes. They were both cheap and meet my wants in terms of fit and detail. I've tried on expensive Japanese ones and they never seem to fit me very well and like Ian I can't see the value in them.
I quite agree. A blank Russell Athletic sweat cost me around £8 and has been worn more or less every week for the past five and a bit months.
Dickies seem inexpensive.
A 'Cheetah', on Ebay, was £4.45. Including postage.