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#1 2022-06-08 03:18:30

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All-Cotton Raincoats

Just picking up on a few comments elsewhere, does anyone have any recommendations?  I'm uncertain about my old Brooks and Burberrys' coats, but the Aquascutum is definitely poly/cotton.

 

#2 2022-06-08 04:49:48

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Re: All-Cotton Raincoats

The Brooks and Burberrys' yield no information whatever.

 

#3 2022-06-08 06:51:31

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Re: All-Cotton Raincoats

Trench 21, the proper old one, is 100% cotton, but the fabric is a densely woven gaberdine and is heavily proofed so definitely a genuine, fully functioning coat that will keep you dry whatever the elements are throwing at you. Graham Marsh wore his in New York during the hurricane in 2012 and didn't feel a thing.  Also galoshes over his Alden loafers. He looked like a nutter.

 

#4 2022-06-08 06:55:37

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I think this is the real deal, but it's massive. They are kind of meant to be a festival of fabric anyway.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203245306101?hash=item2f525d40f5:g:HlwAAOSw5GJf~IXU

 

#5 2022-06-08 07:06:08

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I can't bring myself to wear anything featuring THAT CHECK.  The very sight of it is calculated to turn me into a gibbering wreck.  Last year, September time, I did hang my nose over a Burberrys' fly-fronted with a far more restrained check.  It was at a decent price, too.  But I walked away.

 

#6 2022-06-08 07:09:25

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Is that the £685 item?  'Iconic' check.  How I loathe that word 'iconic'.

 

#7 2022-06-08 07:21:19

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I wish I knew more about my old Burberrys', bought on Ebay during the summer of 2010.  Tartan blanket lining.  I've been unable to identify the (mostly green) pattern.  Johnny Simons reckoned it to be a limited edition item from around 1967.  It still gets plenty of wear.

 

#8 2022-06-08 07:43:17

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I love that process where he clocks you and works out all the elements and comments on elements of interest. I remember all the praise and all the 'correction' in great detail.

 

#9 2022-06-08 08:05:32

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Copy and pasting that link provided by 2RS brings up a Burberry’s trench for £399? It looks pretty authentic, having the size label sewn into the left hand pocket, a detail often missed by the fakers. Another giveaway for a fake is the check not matching up where it meets at the seams in the lining.  Its had the buckles replaced which is good as they are the first bits that start to look doggy. If one works on the basis that it’s genuine and in good condition then it’s actually not a bad buy for someone who wants one coat that can doeverything, the liner makes  it a very warm coat when they are buttoned in. Not Ivy, but stylish.

I’ve got two Burberry’s items, a trench and a navy blue harrington. Both excellent garments and of a quality that is almost unseen now, I love them! I’m not much worried about brand associations either, Burberry (post Burberry’s) was the brand of choice for the chav culture back in the noughties, but that was going on for 20 years ago and the trend is fading rapidly in the collective memory, other brands have come and gone in favour since. As I remember it was all about showing the Burberry check at the time, the vintage Burberry’s stuff has quite different checks and it’s not on display with a trench coat anyway, so no one is likely to label you as a chav, even in the unlikely situation that you encounter someone with a smattering of knowledge of or interest in clothes.


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#10 2022-06-08 08:19:08

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I wore Burberrys' before I was aware what a chav was.  I'm not sure whether the football crowd were onto the brand in the 80s.  But, living out in the country in those days, Burberrys' and Barbour, like Loake, were on my radar.  I wore the stuff to look a little 'square', to differentiate myself from the lilac-coloured shell-suit wearing crowd (whose younger brothers, I suppose, moved onto Stone Island and North Face).  I used to cut my hair very short.  Brooks, Pendleton and American warm-up jackets went into the mix.

 

#11 2022-06-08 08:21:30

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Re Johnny Simons, he clocked a dark green Pendleton cardigan I was wearing on a visit and told me something about that, too. 
He more or less educated me.

 

#12 2022-06-08 11:45:04

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AFS - this might be the trench for you, Grenfell, all cotton, perfect nick, nice colour, better than 90% of all Burberrys I reckon, decent price. Copy and paste the link -
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334466063611?hash=item4ddfbb1cfb:g:C9IAAOSwn35ijM4n

 

#13 2022-06-08 13:01:48

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^ 55 percent cotton 45 percent poly, but that’s alright - probably why it’s in such good condition. AFS would cut a fine figure striding across the Derbyshire moors in Royal Queen mode. Very close to a Burberry’s trench, but different, the thinking man’s mac. It’s even got the metal loops on the belt to hang grenades on, in case he’s ambushed by mods.


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#14 2022-06-08 13:03:04

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Well, the search leads me to a poly/cotton coat with a starting bid of £112, so I think I'll pass.  Thank you, however, for taking the time and trouble.  My present trench, a Baracuta made in South Korea (again poly/cotton) is okay but not as good as the one I had (from the USA) years ago.  I only wish I could compare the two together, but the original bit the dust a while ago.

 

#15 2022-06-08 13:04:04

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Woof's post there made me chuckle.

 

#16 2022-06-08 13:11:11

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I would wager there’ll be no bids at that price so, if that’s the case worth a reasonable offer to the seller after the auction finishes.


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#17 2022-06-08 13:41:17

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I've mentioned it before but I have a Brookes Bros raincoat with a cashmere lining that had a list price over 1000 dollars. I didn't pay that but what ever I paid was probably too much. I hardly wear it (maybe 10 times in the last 10 years). It doesn't have a raglan sleeve and that bothers me. Also if I do wear it I stand out in a crowd and I don't like that.


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#18 2022-06-08 14:51:44

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A great article about trench coats.

https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/trench-coat-guide/


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#19 2022-06-08 15:53:35

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Oh sorry about that. I wasn't looking properly. I got so excited I missed the key detail. Almost a cracker.

 

#20 2022-06-08 16:34:27

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From the article I posted above - ‘ The Burberry Gabardine is very hard wearing and anything but flimsy. You can find it in 100% cotton, 51% Cotton 49% Polyester and 67% Polyester 33% Cotton. Every other compositions are not genuine.’

Despite all the blab about Everest expeditions and the mystical properties of Grenfell cloth many of their coats are poly/cotton too.


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#21 2022-06-08 23:57:29

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Re: All-Cotton Raincoats

My all cotton raincoat is waterproof and my 60/40 is only showerproof. However unless I'm also in waterproof hat, trousers and footwear, I find it better to avoid walking in heavy rain whenever possible.


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#22 2022-06-09 02:43:16

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Re: All-Cotton Raincoats

Burberry advertise a re-proofing service at their store in Regent Street, I have no idea of the cost. You could probably do this yourself by machine washing the garment with Nikwax on a delicate low temp program. My London Fog mac has been in the wash a couple of times without any problems, again that is a poly cotton mix. Not sure I would risk it with a 100 percent cotton item, it would be a bit of a blow if it all went wrong.


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#23 2022-06-09 10:38:37

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Woof, man, ditch your polycotton gear and invest in some proper Ivy natural fibres. You will definitely itch less. Creases are Ivy!

 

#24 2022-06-09 10:41:50

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Umbrellas for the rain. Or get wet. Macs are for hanging around in cafes pretending you're in a zinc bar in Paris circa '62, hanging out with Jean Seberg. Or something like that. Decidedly not Wetherspoons.

 

#25 2022-06-09 10:44:44

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Mine is more for Paris circa '56, trying to avoid getting murdered by Lino Ventura.

Last edited by Yuca (2022-06-09 10:45:08)


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