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#51 2013-11-29 02:36:07

Leer R.
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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

 

#52 2013-11-29 02:52:07

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

I recently purchased the RRL officer chinos in olive and was mightily impressed, although at €208 Euros, they are seriously expensive. As a reproduction of 1961 military chino they can't be beat and US made too!

RRL makes much better sense for the RL brand, than going the other way for the masses with their Chaps range from the the 1990s.


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#53 2013-11-29 03:34:35

Leer R.
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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

 

#54 2013-11-29 09:06:44

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

These are high rise enough, label states the following specifications:
     - Standard Issue, Type D-2
     - Serial No. RRL8415-530-4390-LF60
     - Issue, Apr 5 -1961
     - On the back written in hand is: S/Sgt Robt. V. Pima 39134492, 389th 523rd Bomb Group Sqdrn


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#55 2013-11-29 10:50:33

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

I suppose there are some different models and the one I tried was I dunno... The hipster hip low rise officer 2006 pant... ;-)

 

#56 2022-06-09 10:46:57

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

One thing about Brooks Brothers: my poncing, fat-bellied, smug, money-grubbing little shit of a former next-door neighbour will almost certainly not end up wearing it.
Unlike Ralph Lauren. 
But they should oust that damn sheep, pronto.

 

#57 2022-06-09 10:53:23

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

I'd completely forgotten I'd started this thread but I'm glad I did, and I agree with every word I wrote.

 

#58 2022-06-09 12:17:42

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So do I.  I trawl - with increasing sadness - their offerings on Ebay.  I've come up with a few bits and pieces this year, most recently an English made lambswool v-neck sweater. 
I paid two unmemorable visits to the London shop, of which Johnny Simons said to moi, 'They might as well be selling potatoes' (which made me chuckle a good deal).

 

#59 2022-06-09 12:30:38

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

Strangely enough there used to be a Brooks Brothers in Valletta, Malta.

The George Cross Island. I am not sure what the market was like. The store is closed now.


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#60 2022-06-09 12:54:14

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I remain very fond of my plain as a pikestaff, unlined raincoat.  I bought it from an American Ebay seller just around the time the customs charges began to appear.  Stone and fly-fronted, it puts me in mind of the kind of coat Cary Grant might have been seen wearing around the time of 'Charade'.  Just 'Brooks Brothers' in yellow lettering and the name of a previous owner stitched in below.

 

#61 2022-06-09 12:57:59

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

I came across a Brooks Bros store in the middle of Rome recently.

Nestled between scores of Italian independent menswear shops it looked very out of place and strangely uninviting.

My wife couldn’t believe that I couldn’t muster up any enthusiasm to even go in for a look. Wrong time and place.

 

#62 2022-06-09 13:01:13

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

Are Boggi still in evidence?

 

#63 2022-06-09 13:41:10

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

I can see that Spendthrift, nothing much draws me into their stores now. If I was in the US and came across one of their larger shops I would go in, mainly for nostalgic reasons and because the atmosphere of their shops is nice with the wooden panels and luxury carpets. Also good for a toilet stop! But there’s precious little chance of finding anything I would want to buy. They are still good at ties and in the larger stores they usually have a spectacular display of of them, I enjoy picking them up and examining the classic patterns. But who needs a comprehensive selection of silk ties anymore? Certainly not me.

At one time in the larger US stores you encountered old time served salesmen who had been with the company for decades. They exhibited a frosty veneer which soon melted once you showed some knowledge and interest in the product. In later visits I noticed younger sales people appearing who were far more pushy but soon struggled if you asked any questions about the clobber. Then, heaven forbid, young *women* trying to sell you trousers, it just wasn’t the same. I imagine all the old patriarchs have gone now, probably couldn’t retire quick enough.


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#64 2022-06-09 14:34:37

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AFS - Yes. I think there was at least a couple of Boggi stores. Nice to browse and not at all snobbish. But far more interesting to me was the lower end independents who all seemed to be stocking if not ivy, what we would all recognise as very good quality standard classics. I stuck to my pact that I wasn’t there to buy. But there really was some beautiful knitwear and footwear on display.

Woof’s quite right on both points there. Re ties. Apart from black, or an occasional navy square end knitted, I haven’t had use for a tie in over twenty years now. They just don’t feature on my radar. And a Brooks shirt, new, in a shop staffed by corporate kids holds nothing for for me. NOS yeah. Well loved, worn and washed. Definitely.

I’m hardly qualified though. Brooks doesn’t feature as highly in my wardrobe as it will in most of you guys’.

 

#65 2022-06-10 01:50:42

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Italy: I brought back some colourful jumpers and a pair of desert boots in 2005.  The jumpers came from a back street menswear shop, the boots from a shop on the main drag in Brindisi.  The jumpers were seldom worn but the boots only gave up the ghost last year.  I was advised, well after they'd been binned, that the crepe could have been renewed.  Never found anything else remotely like them.  Less than half the price of Clarks', which I now won't go near.
I remember a lot of sweaty, foul-smelling gits in both Rome and Venice, whether on the bus or down at the Sunday morning flea market.  It reminded me very much of home, where the emphasis tends to be on the flea side of things.

 

#66 2022-06-14 00:38:32

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

Gotta get the quote feature back.

Like woofboxer and spendthrift, in agreement on ties
But it’s a sadness to me that they appear
On way out.  Or maybe are well done and already gone.

Like spendthrift, still appreciate a blue or black knit.  Add to that a half dozen repp stripes (school, club or old sentimental favorites)

Too many other options now that still have good stuff
And good ties.

i tried to order some new Brooks BD shirts USA.  Last were probably 3-4 year ago.
Couldn’t find any.  So not even that there. 

The death of the place has been bemoaned enough I suppose

I’ve certainly done it.  That it lasted 200 years, majority of which under family ownership, is an achievement.

I never liked the Mercer for Oxford cloth. I’m not sure why. Probably my own inadequate taste.  Though I should give them another try for broadcloth.. I really liked the white and blue and “heritage??  pink of the Brooks.   They got the blue esp right.   I imagine I’ll keep flying the OCBD flag for years.  And there are other good places.


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#67 2022-06-14 12:13:28

AFS
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Daily trawling on Ebay pays occasional dividends; less so than in the past (needless to say).  But you have to work at it, in the UK. 
I made the mistake of buying a Paul Stuart shirt recently.  Made in Italy, the collar is all wrong.

 

#68 2022-06-15 00:23:59

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My wife just darned my sweater.
And a darned fine sweater it is, too, being Scottish lambswool in chocolate brown. 
The fact there was a small hole in the sleeve brought the price right down.
Now I can afford to have the roof mended.
I'll buy my wife an extending ladder.

 

#69 2022-06-16 00:20:23

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Ebay: Bornagainmarketplace are sometimes worth a glance.  They have stacks of Brooks shirts.  Mostly complete shite, needless to say, but every once in a blue moon something pops up.  And they're inexpensive.  But be prepared to see a lot of black sheep, 'Made In Malaysia' (or, even worse, China - and I was once accused of racism for saying this) and, quite bluntly, unpleasing designs.  But can they be any worse than RL now or even Press?

 

#70 2022-06-16 01:39:32

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

I’m not fully up to date with J Press shirts, but I’ve always found them to be okay. They understand the unlined collar and produce a nice range in traditional colours and patterns. I always had to take a half a collar size larger than Brooks. At present shipping costs and import charges push the price up so high as to make then unaffordable. But if I were in NY, or near one of their other branches and I needed some shirts then I would head to J Press.


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#71 2022-06-16 02:25:09

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I'm pleased to hear Press still get the thumbs-up.  Shirts aside, I have my eye on a jolly splendid jacket of theirs currently languishing (in the USA) on the Bay.  I doubt very much whether I'll bite but it is a bit of all right. 
Wore Brooks out first thing, having surveyed its crisp cleanness in the mirror.
Men out and about in usual hot weather shit.

 

#72 2022-06-16 12:44:26

AFS
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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

A trawl of Brooks on Ebay (in the UK): a miserable selection; nothing worth even contemplating.

 

#73 2022-06-18 04:33:50

AFS
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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

Brooks Brothers 'Saxon': what's the story there?  Horace might know.

 

#74 2022-06-18 04:39:56

AFS
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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

Somebody in the US wants £135 for a deadstock shirt.  Plus shipping.  Plus tax. 
I was looking at buying a S/H O'Connell's.  Ruled it out. 
Same with a Geoffrey Scott at the end of last year.

 

#75 2022-06-18 15:47:36

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Re: The glory that was Brooks Brothers

chum,

re:  Saxon -- rings a very distant, dim bell.  But nothing comes to mind at the moment.


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