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#1 2022-06-09 11:38:44

Tworussellstreet
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Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

Yes, finally, Hubert aka Mark Collins, a legendary figure in London Ivy Leagueism, gets his dues as JS's star customer.

https://johnsimons.co.uk/journal/customer-spotlight-mark-collins/

 

#2 2022-06-09 12:30:14

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

Got it.  Read it through.  Will do so again.
I'm still not a fan of Paraboot, however.  Yet I do see how Paraboot and Keydge fitted together so nicely for that Parisian look Hubert alludes to.  I saw Paraboot on sale in Clichy on my second visit.  Never saw them in St.Malo, though.

 

#3 2022-06-09 13:20:37

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

I really like the look Mark is projecting in those photos. Until you reach ground level and see the selvedge jeans with giant turnups worn with loafers, looks so contrived and slightly hipster. Not good.


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#4 2022-06-09 13:25:00

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

I'm afraid I'm inclined to agree with Woof: 'contrived' is a good word for it.
I posted years ago on not teaming a G9 with loafers.  Again, a contrived look.
But Hubert did once write so nicely about white socks.
Only once worn them myself but they suit naked girls.

 

#5 2022-06-09 13:36:39

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

I agree as well. although I often wear selvedge jeans with a turnup, the turnup is more modest and I am usually wearing desert boots. Mark mentions his love of the desert boot and I wonder if he normally has desert boots on with those jeans?


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#6 2022-06-09 13:40:18

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

I'm not a fan of Paraboots but I do like the Kleman
Padror Leather – Taupe sold in JS. They remind me of a pair of shoes I had as a kid in the same colour


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#7 2022-06-09 14:54:22

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

Yeah. Another vote against those jeans. They look like the kind of thing I would have worn during my mercifully short lived double denim, boots and newsboy hat period.

Like Robbie, I’m a big fan of the smaller turn up with db’s (or loafers and CVO’s).

I love what he says about choosing clothes according to your body shape. This is a detail that’s so often overlooked in the in the clamour to emulate.

And that olive jacket? I know navy is the accepted industry standard. And khaki works nearly as well. But those photos really state the case for olive don’t they?

 

#8 2022-06-09 15:04:41

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

The olive jacket does look good.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#9 2022-06-09 23:57:15

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

The cuffed jeans look is overdone.  I still do it myself, more often than I should, sometimes with loafers, more often with desert boots.  But it's a default look, used when I just want to get out of the house in a hurry in order to do something mundane.
I also still like the L.L.Bean denim with one and five eighths stitched turn-up with dirty bucks.  Looks best with a polo shirt or crew neck sweater.  Pretty relaxed, pretty pared down.  Less is still more.

 

#10 2022-06-10 00:57:36

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

I really liked the jeans personally, lovely patination that only comes from well-worn raw denim. None of that stone-wash bullshit. Could the turn ups have been a touch smaller, certainly. Thought the interview it’s self was interesting too. Where oh where to get a pair of beefroll scotch-grains these days? Bass did a re-release (US Made too) a couple of years ago but they’ve long since left the shelves. I had a pair of original dead-stock from Russell Street circa 2007 but I wore them too much and they died their final death three or four years ago - i’ve been longing to replace them since.

 

#11 2022-06-10 01:16:18

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

The jeans draw attention downwards and not in a good way.

High water trahseez need a narrow cut not a wide flapping one. I will not comment on turn ups as I understand denim freaks require them to demonstrate selvage bona fides.

Take out the button down and the loafers( shirts and shoes again) and it has moved on from a sharper late 60s look.

However, this is what the chore coat brigade are after.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#12 2022-06-10 01:43:16

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

'The chore coat brigade'.  Made me smile.  I'm with Kingers on this one, just like with my appreciation of un-PC English poets.  AFS is full of surprises. 
A narrow cut, yes.  I'd go for cords with a minimal break.  I detect a kind of 'Chiltern Street Orthodoxy' developing, which Jimmy Frosty might well have bought into. 
I'm about to confound Woof, paste a frown on my brow, then spend some time contemplating the direction in which a man of my tender (declining) years ought to be travelling in.

 

#13 2022-06-10 01:55:01

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

The Dick Emery ‘skinhead’ character had high water jeans with a big turnup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNvrthMfmng


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#14 2022-06-10 01:57:49

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

'A legendary figure'.  I'm assuming that our Gibson typed that with a straight face.  That means the gentleman has been around a while, spending his dosh at Russell Street, then Chiltern Street.  Doubtless, if I lived in or around our capital city, I would have done much the same.  The white socks are said to be superlative: none whiter.  Although didn't that tithead Elms have something dreary to say on the subject? 
Whilst 'browsing' online, I came across a video clip in which various gentlemen with creased, lined faces waxed sublime about Johnny Simons.  One of these I took to be Kevin Rowland, another Weller.  Oh, and Smithy.  Not a glimpse of Mr.S, except in old scrapbook studies.

 

#15 2022-06-10 02:01:35

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

To be perfectly candid, I put on a pair of USA-made dark Levis earlier this year, adjusted the hems, formed the cuffs, then wore them out with cordovan wingtips and a Dhobi Maincoat.  I probably looked like an old pikey.  It was not a look that was ventured on again.

 

#16 2022-06-10 02:03:55

AFS
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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

Certainly, had I added my Stetson cap and worn it at a rakish angle...
All a bit 'Peaky Blinders' I should imagine.

 

#17 2022-06-10 02:10:30

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

I was with Mark on that first trip to J.Simons in 1986 and experienced the same epiphany as him. We have been on the same journey ever since. John Simons has never been purely about Ivy League, and the clothes sold and worn by its customers have embraced many items of workwear, and more formal British tailoring as well on occasion. John was importing Carhartt before anyone else, sold American work boots including Red Wing, some of his best sellers were leathers from Golden Bear and Willis & Geiger. So there was a kind of J.Simons look which incorporated elements from beyond strict 3-button Ivy. The cool guys always mixed it up and as John himself said "we don't want to look like little Americans". I used to wear Walkover buckle boots with my red tag twisted seam big E Levis, with an Ivy tweed jacket by Linett and a plaid Sero Purist shirt. So Mark's jeans are part of that. Great denim is definitely part of the JS Look. That prissy ex-mod thing with a mean little turn-up, such a pinched narrow, inexpressive look, is definitely square and out.

 

#18 2022-06-10 02:15:28

AFS
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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

Then count me well and truly out.

 

#19 2022-06-10 02:17:57

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

'The cool guys'.  Very self-defined.

 

#20 2022-06-10 02:20:52

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

I've never felt cool, but certainly aspired to be. Isn't that what it's all about, otherwise go shop at M&S.

 

#21 2022-06-10 02:25:35

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

And in fact I'd say this highlights one of the big problems with people who follow a code, a look, a prescribed set of rules, all of which of course many men like and need in order to feel they are 'fitting in' and safe in their decision making. Such men rarely seem able to look themselves in the mirror and assess - do these clothes/this hairstyle/this beard/these shoes make me look as attractive as I can be? In an absence of the ability to make such an assessment they return to the code, for there safety lies.

 

#22 2022-06-10 02:25:51

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

‘I'm not a fan of Paraboots but I do like the Kleman
Padror Leather – Taupe sold in JS. They remind me of a pair of shoes I had as a kid in the same colour’

Kleman have that French jolie laide thing. No horrible label on the outside either. I have a dark brown pair. My main issue is the soles can squeak like you have walked across a sticky floor. Definitely not a Wetherspoon issue as none of my other footwear has this problem.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#23 2022-06-10 02:30:05

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

Kleman are Poorman's Paraboots. If you're going clumpy French you may as well do it properly. Like choosing Freeman Hardy & Willis brogues when you have the option to get hold of a pair of Florsheim Imperials.

 

#24 2022-06-10 02:43:40

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

TRS. That is one way of looking at it.

However, as they were standard issue to French rail workers, I could say they are more authentic workwear.

I never pay more than I have to anyway.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#25 2022-06-10 03:05:13

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Re: Hubert Swaine on John Simons website

I've never aspired to be cool.  I told Frosty so.  Frosty said, 'How cool is that?'  I didn't take him at all seriously.

Jazz aside, I despise the very notion.

 

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