It's pretty uncompromising, isn't it? It shows you mean business, if only inside your own head. But I'd say there are only two main choices: the classic American wingtip and the loafer. Smooths, I think, look too 'military'. But the wingtip, buffed, will look good with a decent raincoat (select your tone carefully) and dark denim. You will feel yourself standing upright, ready to take on all comers. Then there's Ian Strachan's black Sebago (or Shaun Hoolan's Weejun). A little more playful and relaxed, but still sending a message. It speaks of quiet confidence, perhaps a slight touch of arrogance; knowing what you like and wearing it well.
Yep. black wingtips with dark denim. Or better, grey wool flat fronts. Never with stonewash for me. A navy raincoat. I think it's a great look.
Smooths. Funerals only for me now.
Black Sebagos I'm happy to put with everything. They can 'take down' or relax a trouser/shirt/blazer outfit just enough. Or take jeans and knitwear to a place desert boots can't go.
Despite the often talked about 'women's obsession with shoes men wear', They're the only ones I've been complimented on. In fact a mum took me aside at the school gates just to let me know that another mum had mentioned to her the other day that I'd been wearing a particularly nice pair of shoes. Of course I pretended not to remember what they were and skipped off like Fred Astaire.
My Black Sebagos are definitely the shoes most commented on by women. I must wear them more often. Desert boots don't seem to get the girls so excited.
There was more than a single post on here, a dozen or more years ago, about wearing your loafers dusty. That would be a grave insult to the black shoe, especially the old USA-made Sebago. I miss mine. In those days of course we used to read about sandpapering the collar, Fred Astaire throwing and beating his jackets against hard surfaces and Ian Strachan laying a new beige raincoat in the road and having traffic run over it.
Definitely if they were made to be polished then polish them. Dusty like what? You've just emerged from a year locked in the campus library? You hitched from New York to Chicago? Too affected for me.
The compliments only came when the shoes were clean and shiny.
JFM once commented ’I do own black shoes but when I wear them I always find myself wishing that I had put on something more interesting’.
I feel much the same, it must be forty odd years of having to wear black footwear in work.
Same for me: black footwear is for work only, or with a suit, and even with a suit I prefer to make it more 'playful' by wearing brown shoes if the situation permits.
As for black loafers: a concept I have never understood. The whole point of loafers is that they are the most relaxed shoes ever, so making them in black defeats the purpose.
However I did wear black longwings with jeans years ago and might try it again.
I own Black Longwings,Smooths,penny loafers and they are all exclusively for work.
They are all sadly gathering dust after 22 months of remote working.
I tend to wear black when feeling slightly pitiless toward the world and the majority of the people in it. Or when about to confront something or someone.
Thinking about it, I'm with Yuca on the black loafer. Wine is probably favourite.
Mid/dark brown is my favourite colour for loafers. Rancourt do pennies in the perfect shade for me. But they don't come cheap.
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Your point on 'relaxed' is well made.
I recently bought a pair of Black Alden smooths/Bluchers, only because they were ridiculously cheap, but I'm thinking of selling them on as they look far too smart and I don't think they'll get enough wear as I'm more smart casual. A good friend of mine whenever out would always be seen wearing black Weejuns, Big E Levi's as he called them (before everyone went mad on Selvedge) not faded, OCBD and his trusty Guernsey in Navy which was years old.
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I have a pair of Dexters in a colour described as Antique Burgundy.
Could be considered more formal than regular Burgundy much darker,.
The burgundy/wine Weejuns I have are disappointing in quality. But did start to look a lot better, less plastic and more antiqued, when I started using brown cream and polish on them.
I did try the Weejun's hack back in the day but gave up on Weejuns after that.
Made in USA Dexters have been my loafer of choice for 7 or 8 years.
Being in an increasingly jittery Bill Evans kind of mood and enthused by that Japanese nutter on YouTube, I'm thinking of following the Japanese/Korean lead and wearing them once more.
My background is Irish/English with very fair (ie red) complexion and white hair. If I wear black anything I look like a wanker about to have a heart attack. Charcoal grey is as close as I will go, and only for funerals.
I still have plenty of black shoes, though, and I should probably get rid of them except for the Park Avenues (funeral) and the AE wingtips (for impersonating an FBI agent).
Patrick, you sound very similar to my second wife, Anglo-Irish - right down to the colouring.
She used to look quite fair in black underwear.
Some time around the business in Saigon.
Yuca said = Same for me: black footwear is for work only, or with a suit, and even with a suit I prefer to make it more 'playful' by wearing brown shoes if the situation permits.
As for black loafers: a concept I have never understood. The whole point of loafers is that they are the most relaxed shoes ever, so making them in black defeats the purpose.
However I did wear black longwings with jeans years ago and might try it again.
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When l look back over the last few years l have found myself hardly worn black shoes, and even burgundy is being worn less. I am now really beginning to understand what Bruce Boyer said about brown shoes looking more natural with clothes.
I nearly wore burgundy shoes with my gray tweed trousers and thick cranberry cardigan when visiting my tailor yesterday, but l decided the shoes were too prominent and bright for the outfit and that l should tone it down and give a more casual look. I wore a medium brown pair instead and the look of the entire outfit was so good and natural without a thing out of place.
Yes, black shoes goes good with certain more formal clothes, and l personally like black shoes a lot, they are so sharp. When it comes to loafers, nothing better than a nice black loafer, it is nice and sharp and strong. Brown or tan loafers = nah, a bit weak looking. Love a black penny loafer with casual and love a black elastic loafer with numerous things. So classic. Funny isn't it: l like black shoes with a gray or navy suit or more formal blazer and trousers combination, and l like black loafers, but l like brown shoes for everything else.
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I used to favour a black loafer: Sebago. After a while I went off them. But I might well consider them again now.
I have always had a pair of black Sebago loafers. Well since I was seventeen. I wore them at school where we had to wear black shoes with our school uniform and I continued to wear them throughout the decades. At one time when they were not so easy to find I would buy them from Stockmann Finland, a shop that used to have a fine selection of USA shoes and also London Fog products. For many years I wore them in office jobs and recently I dug out a pair to wear at my Aunt's funeral. I love them but today in my retirement I don't wear them very often
Sometimes, perhaps, they're not as kind to the older foot as they might be and are otherwise limited in their flexibility. I'm referring to loafers in general of course, though the Sebago I still have are pretty comfortable for shortish periods.
I tend to favour Astorflex more and more and never fail to give praise to The Weejun for promoting them. Do the Italians produce a better shoe or desert boot?
Most of the time, in my retirement , I wear desert boots. I find Clarks suit my feet, so that's what I buy. I used to visit Italy once a year and I usually bought back a Made in Italy pair of desert boots. I'm missing my Italian visits.