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#26 2022-06-19 03:21:51

Tworussellstreet
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Re: Ivy As A Mood #1: The Black Shoe

Black Paraboot Michael are a key component of French Ivy. I read that somewhere. I have a pair of 1960s black Bostonian Venetian loafers which I got deadstock from the Blessed Zachary of Cambridge Mass. in the first great Ivy Revival Wave of 2009. It's the only black I could wear on my feet. John and Ian lectured me for hours on the unshakable doctrine of brown shoes for Ivy and it has left its mark. But hang on - didn't Strachan wear black Sebagos now and again...?

 

#27 2022-06-19 08:06:50

AFS
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Re: Ivy As A Mood #1: The Black Shoe

I believe - from reading it on 'Talk Ivy' - about a hundred years ago that Mr.Strachan did indeed wear black Sebago and whisked some away with him to the Forest Of Dean. 
A brown shoe is fun, a brown shoe is flexible, but a black shoe has the seal of approval from that Japanese nutter on 'YouTube' who just adores Bill Evans (who, in the only image I've seen of his plates is sporting something that look like Hush Puppies.  Possibly Shelly Manne was a bad influence on him).

 

#28 2022-06-19 10:07:59

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Re: Ivy As A Mood #1: The Black Shoe

He (Ian S) definitely sported the black Sebago, but not that often.

 

#29 2022-06-19 10:13:06

AFS
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Re: Ivy As A Mood #1: The Black Shoe

Alden plain, then?

 

#30 2022-06-19 11:23:19

AFS
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Re: Ivy As A Mood #1: The Black Shoe

Without wishing to begin a new thread (I detect the ghost of Woof, lurking, close by), can anyone shed light on the Japanese/Korean liking for highly-polished black shoes?  I mean by this: what are their preferences?  American made?  Or traditional English?

 

#31 2022-06-19 11:39:31

RobbieB
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Re: Ivy As A Mood #1: The Black Shoe

I might be called an old suede head but I did like the black loafer with a good quality white, red or yellow sock combination. At one time I could sometimes only afford to buy Sox's from the Squire shop.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#32 2022-06-19 12:47:15

AFS
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Re: Ivy As A Mood #1: The Black Shoe

The loafer-coloured sock combo was something we did at school circa 1972, during the drift to, yes, suedehead and 'smooth'.  Not only red, white and yellow but also lime green and orange with black hoops.  These sartorial horrors came off a local market stall and were much favoured by herberts wearing 'Budgie' jackets.  But loafers were never seen as much at our school as DMs.  Almost always ox blood or cherry red.  Awful look, awful period of my life.

 

#33 2022-06-20 01:25:02

Runninggeez
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Re: Ivy As A Mood #1: The Black Shoe

can anyone shed light on the Japanese/Korean liking for highly-polished black shoes?  I mean by this: what are their preferences?  American made?  Or traditional English?

AFS, they tend to go for US or French. Highly polished Alden's, Paraboot & JM Weston's. If it is English, they'll be C&J's.

 

#34 2022-06-20 04:05:44

AFS
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Re: Ivy As A Mood #1: The Black Shoe

I'm indebted to Runninggeez for this information.  The Japanese are perhaps the most interesting chaps in terms of contemporary Ivy dressing.  They never seem to do things by halves, do they?  I'm not surprised by the countries of origin named above.  My experience of Weston and Paraboot has been limited and not wholly satisfactory, but the C&J I owned around fifteen years ago (and sold to a Swede) seemed to me a serious-minded shoe.
I was enchanted by the gentleman on YouTube (even if he was a little long-winded and off-target), discussing 'Mr.Bill Evans' and would have been pleased had he given 'Mr.Cal Tjader' similiar attention. 
But I continue to see the flexibility and appeal of the brown shoe.

 

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