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#51 2010-10-02 13:40:39

shamrockmonkey
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?


I brush my teeth with minty paste/I hate when Liquor goes to waste.

 

#52 2010-10-02 14:09:48

Harpo
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Mmmmmmm, funky!


Randy lower-class trifler

 

#53 2010-10-02 14:19:37

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Natural shoulder vintage Ivy jacket.
English Plain point shirt.
Flatfronts that sit on the natural waist worn short in the leg by European standards.
English Plain toe Oxfords.
Lambswool knitwear in muted shades.

Totally Ivy. Totally Brooksy. Totally East Coast.

... And only the shoulderline is American.

 

#54 2010-10-02 15:11:16

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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Their take; their privilege.  Cross-fertilization.  Very subtle; faultless if done well.  Kingstonian's point, too, is well put across.  There was a long-standing preference for 'Celtic'-style knitwear, wasn't there?  I can see Russell Street's description there doing quite nicely for me during the next ten years or so.  Give or take a detail or two.

 

#55 2011-11-07 07:43:49

Andy_B
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Subtle mixing still:  Clarks' English-made chukka boots with Paul Stuart Italian-made cords.  Grenfell, Bill's and Sebago.

 

#56 2022-05-29 00:20:29

AFS
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

I'm still mulling this over in 2022.  It seems just as relevant now as it did then as I scour Ebay for decent Made In The USA clothing.  I was lucky with those Jarman smooths last night but all too often note that yet another name whose shirts (for example) I might fancy are now being knocked up in China (having previously strutted their stuff in Bangladesh, Pakistan, El Salvador or wherever). 
I run my eye over Grenfell, Cordings and Invertere whilst ruling out Barbour and Burberry (too dodgy). 
Community Clothing?  Aside from the fact the very word 'Community' sets my teeth on edge they seem pretty laudable. 
Scottish and English (but mostly Scottish) knitwear remains the order of the day in my wardrobe (moths, sod off).

 

#57 2022-05-29 00:21:36

AFS
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

B.D. Baggie - now mostly Chinese?

 

#58 2022-05-29 00:23:45

AFS
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Also - a serious question for an older poster (or TRS): did Johnny Simons stock a good/great deal of high end English/Scottish/Irish clothing early on?  And, somewhat later, at Russell Street?

 

#59 2022-05-29 00:29:48

AFS
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Of course, I'm wearing mainly Italian footwear nowadays, Astorflex being kind to my ancient feet.

And did those ancient feet in ancient times etc.?

 

#60 2022-05-29 00:46:15

AFS
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

A rather spiffy Lochcarron coat on Ebay at the moment: the kind of thing I fancy when in the correct mood.

 

#61 2022-05-29 01:20:09

Tim
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Baggies - Italian owned I believe, possibly made there or as you say, more likely China. I’ve not owned once since the Russell Street days. John was very dismissive of them when Chiltern St first opened & I asked about them, so I was faintly surprised when they got them back in again.

I’m currently hankering for Scottish knitwear, some donegal tweed trousers, some grey flannel trousers and a couple of pairs of Cordings heavy-weight corduroy trousers. Plus ideally american-made flannel shirts with a decent collar roll - the lands-end versions are just too pathetic on the collar. I’ve two pairs of shoes at the top of my list before I buy any of that lot however. As they say in game of thrones Winter is coming and it’s cheaper to buy lambswool or cashmere than heating oil at present.

 

#62 2022-05-29 01:48:21

AFS
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

My wife is more or less echoing that dodgy TV programme, Tim. 
Donegal tweed trousers sound appealing. 
A funny shirt, the Baggie.  I had a chambray from Shamrock years ago.  No interest in the USA so he gave it to me, free, gratis and for nothing, being a nice guy.  But I picked up a couple cheap recently, one of which is a USA-made denim with a collar roll every bit as good as Brooks at their best - certainly better than, say, Ralph Lauren or even the Troy Guild I bought recently.  Others, in the past and more recently, have sometimes been on a level with something like Haggar. 
I'm not entirely surprised JS was dismissive of them.  I suspect the old Richmond chaps would have been too: possibly more so.

 

#63 2022-05-30 10:03:20

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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Ross Russell suggested that Miles Davis was wearing English clothing by the time 'Birth Of The Cool' was released: tweed suits for instance (okay, most likely of some Celtic origin).  Perhaps the alleged Paul Stuart connection cropped up later.  Anyway, Miles liked his schmutter. 
I'm beginning to slightly move away from some of the old American names.  The USA-made Bean chinos I bought a while ago are all right but too obviously poly/cotton.  Those recommended by Uncle Ian are quite a bit better, I think. 
Jackets - the Stanley Blacker Harris Tweed has proved disappointing whereas the Norm Thompson is acceptable.  But - Ivy or not - I have a yearning for more Donegal tweed else 'Thorn Proof'.
Perhaps this thread should be retitled: 'British: Might This Be The Way To Move Forward?'

 

#64 2022-05-30 10:04:28

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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

I also don't think too many on here down the years have been averse to a bit of 'Anglo'.

 

#65 2022-05-30 10:11:42

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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

We could probably compile a list: beginning with A&S, moving onto, say, Cordings and Grenfell...  Not to mention the Scottish and Irish knitwear fancied and favoured by our American cousins.

 

#66 2022-06-22 12:34:42

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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Partly, I think, there appears to be now little choice if wanting to visit an actual shop rather than bugger about online. 
I'm reverting back (to a limited extent) to John Smedley. 
It was becoming problematic years ago. 
Of course, sad to say, many formerly reliable English names like Paine have gone the way of all flesh.  The last good stuff I had of theirs were slipovers, thrifted back in around 2009 and still being worn.

 

#67 2022-06-22 15:47:14

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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

A number of trad USA outfitters still stock UK made products. Often they're own labelled but at a guess Press stocks items made by Alan Paine, Corgi, Pantherella and Luke Eyres.

(I might be wrong about Eyres). Add to this Barbour, Grenfell and Chrysallis out of Northamptonshire. They also have cashmere from Johnstons of Elgin.

The Irish poplin ties are most likely Atkinsons but adapted to be slightly narrower.

The Andover Shop sells British made Seaward and Stearn shirts and a shed load of classic British toiletries too.

Ben Silver stocks Crockett. Great shoes. And Draper slippers and Ettinger leather goods

O" Connols also has some British brands.

It's funny that some of these once ubiquitous UK brands are now more visible oversees than at home. I blame the leisure wear chaps.

 

#68 2022-06-22 23:57:34

AFS
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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Difficult with some items of course.  In the absence of natural shoulder jackets, I can understand the attraction of non-chore Vetra (as a reasonable alternative to the now rather fetishized Keydge). 
Shirt collars can be a problem all round, as we're all aware.  But that was the case at The Ivy Shop. 
Perhaps Vetra/Paraboot might be a way to move forward - at least for some.
I'm still intrigued by the Smedley for Norman Hilton products.
I'd favour Sunspel if still made locally.

 

#69 2022-06-23 02:38:44

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Re: English: Might This Be the Way to Move Forward?

Does anyone rate Margaret Howell?

 
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