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#176 2022-08-30 07:18:02

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

What is it with bloody Wetherspoons and Ivy? For me totally antithetical, but then I'm a Scouse ponce who sold out to the ways of the bourgeoisie years ago, excepting my love of Everton FC  who, as Kingy says, were lucky to win a point at Brentford. One day we shall rise again! 'Perambulations' sounds great - shall investigate, thanks.

 

#177 2022-08-30 08:11:04

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

‘Today I had a little run out to Blackheath and spent a couple of hours wandering around the Cator Estate.’

I have a couple of pals from Blackheath. One is a wealthy lawyer with another country home; the other is an ordinary working chap. One lived in The Glebe which is a handy location but not madly expensive. He was a legend in his own lunchtime and used to drink in The Railway which I hope is still an OK pub. I remember we went to a lunchtime wine tasting in Davy’s and then crossed the Heath stopping in various pubs en route for a few beers.

Oddbins used to have great charity wine tastings. Two til Five. The trick was to remember you were on the clock and head straight for the expensive stuff and then finish up on the vintage port and malt whiskies. Happy Days!


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#178 2022-08-30 08:49:49

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

Kingy - not in the weatherspoons price range but if you’re in Brentford for the football the drink prices in the Premier Inn are cheap, 4 pints of San Miguel £18.50’ish, probably not your kind of drink, I’ll switch to bitter when the weather cools a bit more and report back,

 

#179 2022-08-30 09:08:44

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

That is cheap for four pints in a hotel. I do drink lager when it is hot - or at least enquire if the ales are cool before I buy.

I have gone off drinking near the ground. Magpie and Crown or even The Griffin were never overwhelmed in the old days. I even tried The Globe and The Nelson when we moved but they are not really for me. Express used to be Gods Waiting Room - never opened til 6pm on a Saturday. I loved it. Too busy now.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#180 2022-08-30 11:02:13

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

I’ll look out for someone in a safari jacket on Saturday if you’ve decided to try the PI ....

 

#181 2022-08-30 12:59:53

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Kingston1an said ‘ He was a legend in his own lunchtime and used to drink in The Railway which I hope is still an OK pub. ’

It looks to have been subject to a character destroying refit in the not too distant past. Now gloomy and soulness, only one draught beer available which had gone yeasty so was exchanged for a lager. Now not an okay pub in my opinion.

 

#182 2022-08-31 02:42:40

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The Span houses used to be part of our Architectural site visits around London when I was a mature student. I wonder if it is still of interest for today's students?


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#183 2022-08-31 02:54:20

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Open House London was something me and the missus used to enjoy. A couple of places we visited in Havering no longer appear on the list.
One was a Modernist house in Gidea Park. The owner had carefully and sympathetically restored the building. Some snotty Islington types didn't quite agree because a couple of cupboards were not original. Well they would be really upset now as a new owner has painted the white building in a beige/brown colour, totally unsuitable to its history.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#184 2022-08-31 03:34:01

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I could never get into the Goldfinger House in Willow Road Hampstead. Limited numbers for each viewing. However, there was Keats House and Fenton House in close proximity and Kenwood was not far (though it is not restricted to Open House). That was the benefit of having the booklet and targeting places in the same borough.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#185 2022-08-31 05:19:17

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

I had a quick look at the Open House website and my impression was that there are not half as many buildings actually open to the public as there were a few years ago. At one time when the event was on you could go to Westminster and go in and out of most of the government buildings and there were also lots more places to visit in the City. There are plenty of talks and walking tours available but they don’t actually involve turning up and being able to wander around inside which was the whole ethos of Open House.

 

#186 2022-08-31 06:08:47

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

FlatSixC,

I have the same impression. Post covid lockdown it’s not the same.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#187 2022-08-31 06:32:08

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

The Goldfinger house on Willow Road, Hampstead is pretty inspirational stuff, the encapsulation of a complete ideology. It's owned by the National Trust and you can book visits for most of the year, or at least you could pre-Covid.

 

#188 2022-08-31 06:34:41

Kingston1an
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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

2RS,

The difference was that during Open House there was no admission charge. Same with the nearby places I mentioned.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#189 2022-09-10 13:26:05

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

Today another of the Perambulations maps came out for a visit to Highgate Village and a walking tour of modernist houses clustered around the Fitzroy Park area. Very interesting and again a tucked away part of London that doesn’t feature in any guide books and which I would never have visited otherwise. Walked back to Camden for the train and paused for refreshment in Kentish Town. The Southampton Arms, great pint of Buxton Bitter but full of hipsters, then the Tapping Admiral which was fairly indifferent on all fronts.
O’Connell’s Harrington, Brooks blue button down, LL Bean khaki jeans, white plimsolls.

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#190 2022-09-10 15:30:54

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

Southampton is Ok.  Pineapple is better IMHO. Tapping the Admiral is pretty good too.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#191 2022-09-15 08:49:49

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

Wetherspoons will be open on the Monday Bank Holiday - which will be of no interest whatsoever to most on here. Though I will probably be in a non-spoon pub in Wimbledon for birthday drinks with a pal I have not seen in a few years.

Now it’s Autumn I had Oakham Echo Brown Ale and Oakham Black Magic Chocolate Porter both at 5%. There is an Oakham tap takeover in the topically named Coronation Hall to celebrate their 45 year anniversary. So nine Oakham ales on hand pumps plus others. The pub charges the same price regardless of alcohol strength. So Attila at 7.5% is the same price   - £2.29 - as the Citra session beer. I only drink small  amounts of Attila but it tastes so good that I emailed the brewery to compliment them. Brewed using a technique called krausening apparently.

I had a green sack jacket to which Hard Bop Hank alerted the site. Kingsridge Schlesinger label from West New York. Fits really well. Spoons customers now wearing more layers. The fisherman’s waistcoat is popular with the white haired brigade. Lots of pockets but not too warm and a sporty image for oldies.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#192 2022-09-15 10:43:20

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

I was in Riga, Latvia over the weekend celebrating a mates 70th birthday.
After settling in our Air BNB in the old town we went looking for a good bar. All the places seemed a bit touristy but in our first bar I ordered 4 local dark beers. The two barmen seemed surprised that I wanted to try the local brew and when we tasted it I understood why. It was awful. I thought it was a one off bad experience but in the evening a crowd of us met up and again tried the local beer in a different bar. No one managed to finish their drink it was that bad. The best bar I found (just across the street from where I was staying) was called 'the two beers' and they served some decent beer (Belgium).
I did note that at the celebration meal all the men were wearing BD shirts (no ties). I had a JS shirt with 5 pocket Lee trousers in  dark mustard colour,  dark brown desert boots.

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'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#193 2022-09-15 12:05:37

colin
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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

Always a fan of these hyper-local South West London detours, Kingstonian. I once had a Kingsridge tweed - it was an unusual green and brown check. Quite nice. Good shoulder, though not the best on cut at the front on the 'quarters' I think they're called. In any case,  sold it on (to H & J) as it was a little on the large size and slightly 'retro' looking. Putting that another way, it's the sort of tweed jacket that would raise comment in wetherspoons in Kingston rather than the kind that wouldn't (which I actually think is most kinds!)

 

#194 2022-09-15 13:15:49

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

Thank you for that significant update Kingston1an. Nine Oakham beers in one place at ‘spoons prices - must be close to beer Nirvana. I would come over to Surbiton to take up the opportunity but doubt I would make it back again!

 

#195 2022-10-03 09:04:43

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

I'm back in the UK and have been frequenting my local pub. It has been good to catch up with some of the regulars but one disturbing thing for me is the increase in 'geezers' getting ' coked up' early evening. The toilets have become overly busy and the noise levels raised. It's putting me off going for a quiet drink and chat. It seems to be everywhere in the Southend area and nothing is being done about it. Lots of aggro and a bad atmosphere all round.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#196 2022-10-03 12:54:29

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Robbie B - ' geezers getting coked up'

Agreed, this is a ‘hidden’ problem’ that is becoming more apparent lately. It’s not no hopers living on sink estates, most of them are in well paid steady jobs or self employed hard working people who are making good money. A husband of one of my wife’s friends recently came to grief, he was in an industry where he had a safety critical role and fell foul of a random drug/alcohol test at work after a weekend on the white stuff. Dismissed on the spot, £70k .pa. and 10 weeks paid holiday a year all gone for a burton in the twinkling of an eye. Now the house is up for sale and the lease cars are going back. His Mrs thought he was spending a lot on booze but that was only the half of it. These people would consider themselves very respectable in every other way and are probably Tory voters to a man, but they are supporting the same drug networks that bring about violence, murder and untold misery, none of which affects them personally.

 

#197 2022-10-03 15:33:53

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

As the lyrics of the Half Man Half Biscuit song go ''What made Colombia famous, has made prick out of you...''

Getting lagered up is one thing, but middle aged geezers coked up is an unbearable experience. Just doesn't work on many levels. Plenty of coke heads out there who love it more than even their own kids. It's a fantastic drug when you're free enough to drive fast while getting your wing-wang squeezed and not spill your whisky. But you do have to grow up and part of that means leaving certain class A, B and C narcotics behind.

It's quite clear and non-negotiable, having a family and a coke habit are not compatible.

 

#198 2022-10-03 15:39:18

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That's a sad story FlatSixC. One of the guys in the pub Friday afternoon was a well paid builder who became more and more out of order. A married man with two young kids, at one point he even made a mock phone call to his wife saying he was working late. We saw him do a deal outside the pub in broad daylight. The mug doesn't realise what he is throwing away.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 

#199 2022-11-09 05:19:19

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Re: Moochers, Ramblers, Flaneurs and Boulevardiers

Nice ramble around Richmond, Yorkshire and Chichester with the Clifton-Taylor book. AFS would enjoy.

Straight into Chichester Spoons,near the market cross, for a couple of local ales, then a nice lunch in a good Indian restaurant, then the cathedral, Roman walls, brickwork and door features on houses. Asparagus on sale at the end of the day in the market a quarter of the price of Lidl not very good weekly offer.

Clock change means not enough daylight for those sort of visits for a while.


"Florid, smug, middle-aged golf club bore in this country I'd say. Propping up the 19th hole in deepest Surrey bemoaning the perils of immigration."

 

#200 2022-11-09 05:39:25

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Went to a local Spoons on Sunday when I was at a loose end and bumped into a mate. On the next table was a bloke watching WHU v Crystal Palace on his phone. Got talking and got the app he was using for my phone. He recommended the Monday Club for cheap drinks but  although I'm retired I don't want to make pub going a daily habit. I did end up going to the Billet, old town Leigh on Monday night and paid double Spoons prices for the privilege.
Noticed that Simpson's pub in the City has closed. Maybe not permanently.


'I am a closet optimist' Leonard Cohen.

 
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