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#1 2023-12-27 02:50:27

The_Shooman
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Any of you wear the boater hat?

It is a hat that really stands out and takes courage to wear at first, even few Fedora Lounge guys dare to wear it. Does anyone wear it here?

 

#2 2023-12-27 06:25:39

An Unseen Scene
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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

It really is an absolute no, even when I been to some events that in the past would of been relevant.

 

#3 2023-12-27 07:59:44

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

If you can pull it off then go for it. I sure as hell couldn't.


some sort of banal legitimacy

 

#4 2023-12-27 12:24:58

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

^^^
I see so many people who look really silly in the boater because the hat doesn't suit them; they are not able to pull it off. Fortunately for me l look good in hats, and my face suits the boater hat very well. To pull it off you really need to look good in it, wear the right type of clothes and feel at ease in it; it needs to look natural. It doesn't have to be costume or eccentric or barber shop quartet, but it does have a unique look that will draw some attention because people are not used to seeing that hat.

I've loved the boater ever since l was a kid and always wanted to wear it. It was not until l was in my 50's that l got confident enough to wear brimmed hats and the boater. It doesn't need to be worn by the water; I often wear mine to a big city park once a week to part take in various activities, I wear it to various festivals etc; the key is to have it look natural on you. I have numerous boaters now, and l also have one being made on special order.

I can do the bowtie boater look, but l often wear long sleeved guayabera shirts with boaters, and the look is good. It is a very smart hat, and it is not for shrinking violets. When you wear it you are going to be the only guy in one, so you need to own the look and really enjoy wearing it.

The boater suits this guy, Big Pretty man. See, the bloke has a nice big oval face and look to pull it off with various different looks. Blokes with oval faces look good in hats. He is at ease with it too, and that helps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1UqonH7s4s

Ironically the people on youtube who teach people how to look good in boaters look the worst and don't know how to wear it.

 

#5 2023-12-27 12:53:08

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

One of my mates at the Fedora Lounge buys old costume clothes made up of the boater and striped blazer and wears it as his everyday type of clothing; but he pulls it off because he has the type of look, the age, and he doesn't give a stuff.

Wear nice clothes and the boater can look fantastic on certain blokes. I like to wear mine with a navy blazer. One day l am going to get a striped rowing blazer because l have the gray hair, it would suit me, and l don't give a stuff. 

Here's my old mate in rowing blazers. Just imagine him with the boater instead of the panama. This guy can get away with it...he has the presence and doesn't give a stuff. he also has 22 inch wide trousers.

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/show-us-your-shoes.4300/page-302#post-2996471
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/show-us-your-shoes.4300/page-302#post-2996591
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/show-us-your-shoes.4300/page-302#post-2999795

Once you realise what looks good on you and you stop giving a stuff, that is when you really start doin' stuff. Gotta stop being scared. Too many guys are scared to do anything.

 

#6 2023-12-27 13:04:22

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Igents make too many rules and overthink things too much....it is all a bunch of bull dust. Too costumey...too anachoristic...blah blah blah. It all depends on the individual on whether it can work. Igents are a bunch of chickens who have no idea, they are scaredy-cats who have never tried anything adventurous in the real world (they are all theory). They constantly talk garbage on the internet. Can't do this, can't do that, blah blah blah.

here are a bunch of young guys role playing with their boaters, but good on them for having the guts to give it a red hot go. ole Charlie Huang is there too. Could most of them pull it off in the everyday world?...nup, but at least they had dreams.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sheridanclub/albums/72157617393170562/with/3480684752

 

#7 2023-12-27 13:34:47

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

I associate boater hats with the English summer and sporting events such as Henley Royal Regatta and Lords cricket matches. Striped blazers like the 'egg and bacon' Lords jacket complete the look. I couldn't pull the look off especially as I am a working class oik and the hat wouldn't suit me.


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#8 2023-12-27 23:49:30

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Thanks Robbie for the comments, but boaters can be worn in many places.

Here are some old films of guys in boaters in the old days going about their daily business. It tells me we don't have to be by the river to make them work, we just need to look good in them and feel comfortable. These things are quite versatile, same goes with the striped blazer. The thing is though, you don't see them much outside of schools and water events because blokes are too chicken to wear them.

A sea of men in boaters in France in 1900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqlFMdiSH3k

Many men in Boaters in New York in 1911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ1OgQL9_Cw

ole Dandy Wellington tried out the boater and a tricky blazer with various winning combinations at 9:30. Dandy loves his boaters for everyday wear too. He's no shrinking violet or chicken, he loves this type of stuff like l do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ol_qYrQq0M

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#9 2023-12-28 04:51:28

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

The latest Facebook page for J Simons shows a boater, on a branch of the Christmas tree, in the shop window!

In the UK I live on a road that has a fee paying prep school. In the summer the girls wear a boater, in the school colours, and the boys wear blue caps. All very civilised


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#10 2023-12-28 09:35:14

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

It would take some bottle to wear a boater in the UK. The only scenarios I could envisage wearing one would be at posh regattas, a day at the races or events like the Goodwood Revival where you know others will be dressing up - not that I frequent those sort of gatherings. Certainly not for routine visits to the pub or supermarket.

They are very nice hats though Shooey, I bet you look the business in a long sleeve shirt, bow tie and boater.

Wide brimmed hats are so rare in everyday settings in the UK that they attract stares and confer instant eccentricity in most people’s eyes. That said I often wear a hat, particularly in the summer for sun protection. If the weather obviously calls for a hat then wearing one seems to stand out less.  If it’s blazing hot or chucking it down with rain most people probably look at you and wish they were wearing one.

I enjoyed that film of New York thanks.

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#11 2023-12-28 12:45:13

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Flatsix said:

Wide brimmed hats are so rare in everyday settings in the UK that they attract stares and confer instant eccentricity in most people’s eyes.


Shooey says:

Despite aussies being known for Akubras and the local hat shops always selling out of wide brim hats, wide brimmed hats are still not widely seen here either. That being said; l wear homburgs, boaters and wide brimmed hats, and sometimes with a bowtie, but most people don't give me a second look. Most people really don't care, maybe it is because l feel at ease and don't care either. I wonder what is going through people's heads to stare and think people are eccentric because they wear a hat?? Is it because hats are so rare, or is it because the wearer feels self conscious? It seems so weird to think that people get all funny because a bloke wears a hat. Obviously people have got issues going on if they feel all unbalanced in their heart over someone who is well dressed, but sadly men worry about what these people think and dress down to fit in with everyone else; what an awful way to live.

I love wearing a hat every single day. Wish l had done it years ago, it really completes the look. Sadly l lacked the confidence as a younger bloke to wear one, but now l don't give a rat's backside. That being said....some people look terrible in hats, and it was no different in the old days. Wearing vintage fedoras with modern clothing doesn't work either - got to chose the right type of styled hat, that is the key.

 

#12 2023-12-28 13:19:34

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Hey Flatsix:

you reckon the boater takes major balls to wear, another hat that takes balls to wear is the aussie Akubra Sombrero. It is a massive cowboy hat, our most traditional hat that dates back over 100 years. I have one in it's original unbashed form...super wide brim and high crown (2/3 of a foot high); this is not a hat for shrinking violets. I get a lot of complements on it, but it suits my face and needs to be worn with the right type of clothes.

Here is a guy wearing it in the video. See him at 30 seconds in. Looks awful on him when the hat is in the unaltered state, but have a look at the size of that thing. A real boss daddy hat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxDuDN7QakE&t=57s

I also have the spanish cordobes sombrero (oversized boater), that's a fairdinkum ripper too. Gets lots of complements, but needs to be styled right for it to work.

 

#13 2023-12-29 02:36:31

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

It would certainly take some front to wear those last two hats you posted Shooey.

Do you remember Tibor who used to post on some of the forums? He purported to habitually wear a top hat and morning dress and posted pictures of himself walking around his surburban neighborhood somewhere in the USA. He came in for a lot of negative comments, but it was water off a ducks back. He’s still on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/tiborengel?igsh=MWpra20xN2p3bzMzYg==

I kind of appreciate what he’s doing there, but essentially he’s walking around in costume, dressed like it’s  1920. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a top hat or full punk regalia, when I see a grown adult out and about dressed in a way that is completely jarring with the rest of the world then I find myself wondering what’s going on in their head.

 

#14 2023-12-29 04:35:28

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Flatsix

Tibor takes it too far. With boaters and cowboy hats you can make it work, but when you are in formal wear everyday you are going to stand out and be looked at as strange. I do keep an eye on Tibor regularly, and now he has got more extreme and has gotten into Regency Attire.

You've got to be careful when doing these things. You could make a real fool of yourself if you get it wrong. Would l wear a top hat and tails to the supermarket like Tibor does?....NO WAY. It would be a dream to wear a top hat (my favourite hat ever), but l would have no-where to wear it.

I have seen Tibor in a top hat and tails to the supermarket, the local takeaway joint, to the pub, at the baseball (standing up in a sea of people in his top hat) etc. The mind boggles.

The key is to be able to pull it off and not look like an oddball.

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#15 2024-01-02 07:31:59

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

^ RobbieB

Yes, cricket is probably the last bastion of mens headwear in England.

Sure hats are worn at Wimbledon during the fortnight, Royal Ascot and the Henley Regatta but they're individual events. At most cricket grounds at either county or International level throughout the season you'll see a fair amount of panamas, pork pie hats, golfing hats and canvas headwear. Personally, I prefer a baseball cap that takes a lot less effort to look after and can be easily stored in my bag.

You're right about Lords. You occasionally see an MCC member in a striped rowing cap or a boating blazer. It appears that being a member of MCC automatically gets you two privileges - the view from the Long Room and the ability to dress like a character straight from Wodehouse.

My daughters Summer school uniform consisted of a boater that was made of lightweight, less stiff material than the mens versions I've seen

 

#16 2024-01-08 22:58:26

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Received my new custom boater today, the one with the black ribbon (photos in link below). it will look great with a navy blazer and bowtie or with a cravat.
https://www.dressedwell.net/threads/the-hat-thread.6749/page-12#post-319521

The boater doesn't feel as comfy as the panama, and it isn't as versatile, but it makes up for it with a really stylish look.

^^^
Yes, the baseball cap would be much easier to look after, but the brimmed hats are worth the trouble; there is nothing quite like a good brimmed hat when you get into them. The problem with the brimmed hats is storing them; all mine are stored in hat boxes, and they take up so much room. When l am in the car l also carry my hat in a hat case on the back seat, and then take it out to wear when l get out of the car. Got to be really into hats to own a hat case. I usually wear a hat whenever l am in public.

 

#17 2024-01-11 07:21:30

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

You can get a folding Panama. I have an old one from Marks & Sparks. The shape is not as nice, in my view, as the Fedora style ones but they are OK if storing/carrying is an issue.

Can get on site from my phone in Spoons (nice plum porter and another chocolate stout). At home, I get blocked on the iPad and the phone with some message from Spamhaus.


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#18 2024-01-11 07:27:43

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Lords is good for county cricket but many Middlesex matches are now at outstations.

Otherwise you can bring your own scoff and a bottle of wine and have a good days entertainment moving around the ground if it suits. Saw Middlesex v Yorkshire for county championship a few years ago. Free entry for pensioners on the crucial final day.

My company had seats at The Oval decades ago and there was an option of a days cricket at the weekend. It was in the days when pubs closed in the afternoons. I had a Pakistani girlfriend at the time who knew far more about cricket than me. In the end the appeal of all day drinking was not enough.


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#19 2024-01-11 15:35:38

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

I've been to vast majority of the home county cricket grounds and Lords is by far my favourite. (My spiritual home, Edgbaston, is ugly and modern. Lacking in any charm.)

Apart from the history and stunning red brick pavilion you have some of the best members facilities. The food and drink is superb. For test matches I always eat at the Harris Garden seafood restaurant

To my knowledge Lords is still the only English Test ground were you can bring your own booze. All the other grounds having to submit to draconian drinking policies that I assume are set out by the ECB.

I've only had the privilege to watch county cricket from the Long Room and it is genuinely a unique experience. You are surrounded by priceless artwork, sitting one tables with the players walking through the crowd onto the field of play. The building is spacious and feels more akin to a St James gentleman's club.

 

#20 2024-01-12 02:39:22

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

You can bring four cans of beer into The Oval for county games. At Lords it is only two cans, or a bottle of wine for county games.

No alcohol allowed for non county matches at either ground.


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#21 2024-01-12 15:36:43

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Kingy

At Lords the alcohol restrictions are for 100 (ie not cricket) or T20 ( hardly cricket)

For international cricket you can bring in the same booze as you normally can for county 1xBottle of wine/champagne per person.

X4 in your party and that makes a pretty great day.

But please no letting off corks onto the outfield.

My understanding is that as the ECB want Lords they have to abide by what MCC says.

The county cricket rules aren't enforced by stewards at any ground I've been to as they're just grateful somebody has turned up -especially Derbyshire.

 

#22 2024-01-12 21:56:12

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Just some more comments about the boaters......

Like the boater experts have said, you need to pick your occasion to wear it. It is one of the most difficult hats to wear, so it is not just a hat you put on willy nilly. The other day l thought about wearing it to the city to do social activities, but that day l wanted to be left alone and didn't want to be the center of attention, so l wore a panama instead. It all depends on the mood....if you feel vibrant and happy, you don't mind some stares, and if the occasion is suitable a boater can be worn. A boater will always get some stares because it is such a unique hat, but it is a very smart hat.

My coloured ribbon boaters get worn to weekly activities in the city park and to festivals, and my black striped boater gets worn to do smart activities/events in the city with my navy blazer.

I see my tailor next week, l will probably wear my boater with a bowtie and blazer.

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#23 2024-01-13 06:27:48

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Back to the cricket-
Lords is my favourite ground for Test match cricket. I'd give a special mention to Trent Bridge. I used to like the Oval back in the days when the West Indian supporters turned up in numbers and used to clap their Red stripe beer cans in unison. I also saw Rod and the Faces and the Who back in 1971 'Rock at the Oval'.I remember thinking it was a sacrilege to trample over the square but it was the end of the season. As an ex Essex  cricket member I like the Chelmsford ground for County cricket
I once went to see England v West Indies at Lords. I got home switched on Channel 4 for the highlights and at the start the camera zoomed in on me sitting in the crowd 'chatting up' a West Indian girl. HaHa.

Never worn a boater at the cricket though.


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#24 2024-01-13 07:51:21

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

I stand corrected about alcohol at Test matches at Lords.

Ticket prices are high, so savings on alcohol give some relief from the prices of alcohol within the ground.


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#25 2024-01-13 11:35:34

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Re: Any of you wear the boater hat?

Robbie - I was at that Who/ Faces gig in ‘71, still have the program somewhere, no Ivy clothes to be seen there man ! Probably the only cricket ground I’ve been to,

 

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