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#1 2008-02-25 07:14:37

Stan Well
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Future For J Simons?

http://j.simons.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/page1.html

 

#2 2008-02-25 07:30:36

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Future For J Simons?

Yeah, we've all been talking about this too.

It's been on the cards for so long.

Eric Clapton stepped in to save Cordings. Who will help John?

I personally owe the guy a HUGE debt, but how much spare cash does a punter like me have at the end of the day?

Ray's Jazz has gone pretty much. Ronnie Scotts isn't what it was. John's shop was the last link.

All the pubs in Soho have changed since I was a youngster too.

This was a whole world which I stepped into the tail end of in '85.

London Suss.

 

#3 2008-02-25 07:38:56

Cheeky Monkey
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Re: Future For J Simons?

With baracuta ( the company) on the up - and considering what John Simons did to raise the profile of the company way back when - would there be any assistance forthcoming in that direction?


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#4 2008-02-25 08:36:27

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Future For J Simons?

There is quite a list of people who owe John.

Ben Sherman...  ?

 

#5 2008-02-25 08:39:31

Get Smart
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Re: Future For J Simons?

I wouldnt count on Baracuta or Ben Sherman pitching in one bloody pound towards saving the shop

Terrible news.  I'll be sure to buy SOMETHING from him when I'm back around xmas, even if it doesnt fit me quite right

 

#6 2008-02-25 08:39:58

Suitedbooted2000
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Re: Future For J Simons?

I hope that John has a long long further stil to come

Lewis

 

#7 2008-02-25 08:51:22

Taylor McIntyre
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#8 2008-02-25 08:53:59

tripchauncey
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Re: Future For J Simons?

Chums,

Has he thought of rack jobbing in another store?  Something like the Polo section of major retailers in the US of A.  Does seem he could create some foot traffic for another store.

Cheerio,
Trip

 

#9 2008-02-25 08:59:40

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Future For J Simons?

Last edited by David (2008-02-25 09:00:31)

 

#10 2008-02-25 09:01:33

Taylor McIntyre
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#11 2008-02-25 09:08:12

Brideshead
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Re: Future For J Simons?

This is terrible indeed.  I made my first pilgrimage to the Squire Shop in Brewer Street in 1969.  I frequented the Ivy Shop and later Village Gate shops.

Today I just happen to be wearing a Giorgio Armani tie that I got from J Simons last year for £29!

All I can offer is sympathy at the moment but I shall make a trip up to JS in the next week or so and at least pick up a few pieces.....

 

#12 2008-02-25 10:35:40

Tony Ventresca
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Re: Future For J Simons?

So what is the problem? The first part of the notice seems to indicate a pending rent increase is driving them out. This is expected, and typical, in busy city cores like London. But later they seem to be asking for investors. Rent is a easy to fix: move somewhere cheaper. But the second...?

 

#13 2008-02-25 11:15:35

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Future For J Simons?

I don't know.

Mr. Simons is an East End boy - a real Londoner.

After Richmond, Soho, Chelsea, Windsor, Covent Garden, a return to a less expensive location might feel wrong to him.

He's a guy who's built up his own business based on not much else other than his own enthusiasm. A real self-made man.

At the end of a working life it might feel hard for him to downscale?

I don't know.

J.

 

#14 2008-02-25 12:39:19

Chris_H
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From: Watford
Posts: 1669

Re: Future For J Simons?


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#15 2008-02-25 13:04:42

Jeeves
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Posts: 420

Re: Future For J Simons?

Is there any mileage in approaching the J Press backers? I'm not sure what his profile is like in Japan but it could be worth a try. The ideal backer would be an existing customer who has enough money not to care, the Eric Clapton solution.

 

#16 2008-02-25 22:09:49

Horace
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Re: Future For J Simons?

I know fuck all about London rents but would an SE5 address be more affordable?  Probably wouldn't have the traffic though, eh?  I don't think your subway goes that far if memory serves.


""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#17 2008-02-26 00:47:31

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Future For J Simons?

From a London Face:

"Someone should get in touch with Clapton, remind him of the crop, Harrington, Levis and desert boot college boy look of his Yardbird days. Cordings indeed - pah! Famous, presumably rich people who've been JS regulars over the years -

Alfred Molina
Jill Gasgoine
Sade
Robert Elms
Paul Weller
Paul Smith
John Cooper Clarke
Jon Moss
A few faces off of The Bill !
Jess Birdsall
David Rosen
David Gilmour
loads of architects
loads of lawyers
loads of advertising/media types
a few Lords and MPs

I've forgotten loads... we need their dosh!

Keep the faith,"

J.

 

#18 2008-02-26 05:04:51

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Future For J Simons?

^ True.

Not sure what to suggest.

Ring the shop and put a few bob through the till to help out on your credit card?

If there is no Clapton style  saviour out there for JS then it's down to all us fans & punters.

The shop really is far more important than you might know.

On a personal level I doubt I'd have tasted Lobster without JS's influence directing my aesthetic education (Too expensive for me in London).

I'd never have rowed my soon-to-be wife across Lake Sebago in Maine.

I'd never have chatted to Nina Simone (for 2 seconds) after seeing her at Ronnie Scotts if JS hadn't fired me up the way he had.

This small shop matters HUGELY and its cultural impact is still to be written.

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#19 2008-02-26 05:16:49

SubtleCool
Ivy, but subtle with it.
Posts: 289

Re: Future For J Simons?

Amen brother.

It's all about enlightenment. Aesthetic adventure and the cut of the cloth are hand in hand.

Being one of those who ventures into JS but doesn't 'chat', I wasn't aware of the issue but it has a sense of inevitability about it, given how many other great individual enterprises have bit the dust over the past few years. Ray's of course is still there in Foyle's but the VIBE has gone and that's so important. So many record shops I used to mooch about in have gone and it's sad really.

Re: Richmond, has JS thought of a move back to the suburbs, I mean a nice suburb like Hampstead? Rents are still probably too high I know and I suspect John has got his pride, but it still would probably be cheaper than the Garden.


Me? Conspicuous? Lady, I'm the invisible man.

 

#20 2008-02-26 05:30:09

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Future For J Simons?

 

#21 2008-02-26 05:55:23

SubtleCool
Ivy, but subtle with it.
Posts: 289

Re: Future For J Simons?

I don't know John so it's hard to tell for me. From the website it sounds like he does want to carry on and there is that old East End thing, you know, moving 'up west' being a sign of 'making it'. So moving back sometimes has significance for some. But that's presumption on my part. He may not mind that much.

I suppose it will all depend on how much he wants to continue really. Perhaps mail order is the only way but that's not the shop, the vibe, the punter. The specialness.

You are totally on the money about his quiet significance. The more you contemplate his connections, his radicalness, the more ludicrously crucial he becomes.

If he does decide to put up his chukkas we should all celebrate him in some way.


Me? Conspicuous? Lady, I'm the invisible man.

 

#22 2008-02-26 06:03:04

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Future For J Simons?

I can't imagine Mr. S. not carrying on.

The journey he's been on and what he's achieved is staggering.

- And I don't discount the sheer hard work he's put into his vision.

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#23 2008-02-26 06:19:40

Chris_H
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From: Watford
Posts: 1669

Re: Future For J Simons?


https://www.facebook.com/groups/hardyandjohnson/

 

#24 2008-02-26 06:22:52

Chris_H
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From: Watford
Posts: 1669

Re: Future For J Simons?

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#25 2008-02-26 07:53:04

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Future For J Simons?

^ All good names. I found Mose through Pete, but that's just my story from the 70's.

I'd never have found Troy without some help from Russell Street tho'.

 

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