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#1 2008-03-07 14:07:49

captainpreppy
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"Country Suits"

I note that one of the favorite allusions of Internet Gentlemen is to "country" suits, e.g., tweeds, heavy flannels, etc. For example, men will say that bluchers, if not "on" with lighter worsted business suits, are fine for tweed country suits and the like.

Okay, I've lived in England, and I am sure that a tweed country suit is fine for sauntering down a rural lane in the gentle English countryside, strolling the banks of the Cam or the Cherwell or meandering the landscaped grounds of a manor house where you are spending several leisurely weeks as a houseguest with Bertie Wooster's set.

HOWEVER, for me, living in my part of the good ol' USA, the "country" is a place of jagged rocks, dusty dirt, prickly pear cactus, Spanish dagger, thorny chapparal, rattlesnakes, tarantulas, scorpions, etc. Get a little further back in the country and you may bump into a mountain lion or a bear! (Encounters of this sort are entirely possible within sight of downtown Los Angeles, by the way!) I don't venture into the country as much as I used to, but when I do, it sure isn't going to be in a Cheviot tweed country suit and a pair of C&J Dainite-soled brogues.

I am left to wonder how many Internet Gentlemen residing in the USA either own a true country suit or would have occasion wear such a garment in the real country.

Perhaps it's from living in Slovenly California or from a Cruiser-esque philistine streak, but I see any sort of suitings at a lower level on the formality continuum than classic business wear to be of very limited utility, at least in most of the USA. Any sartorial situation where the conservative business suit is not warranted can be handled very well by the odd jacket or blazer and decent slacks. In some ways, I regret this state of affairs. I would love an ivory or cream linen-blend suit for summer lawn parties, for example, but I rarely get invitations to such events. (The last time was 1989, as I recall).

Anyway, your thoughts gentlemen?

 

#2 2008-03-07 14:22:46

formby
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Re: "Country Suits"


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#3 2008-03-07 14:47:31

iammatt
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#4 2008-03-07 14:50:31

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#5 2008-03-07 15:00:27

formby
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#6 2008-03-07 15:06:31

AQG
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Re: "Country Suits"

Cap'n,

I live in the country.  Not the country as you describe it, but rural central Pennsylvania.  I think that it qualifies and I'm sure that you must be familiar with the place given your profession and our hunting industry.  While not in routine danger of attack from bears and rattlesnakes (though I've seen a few of each and one roams into town every so often) our rural bona fides are pretty sound.

Standards of dress are fairly low out here.  Hell, even our biggest city, Philadelphia is a pretty sloppy place.  There is an upside to this.  I can wear those country suits, the tweeds, flannels, and checks to the office if I feel like it.  It's a bit of perk, really.  Here, if you put out a modicum of sartorial effort, you're the bloody Duke of Windsor.

Even if I were working in a large firm in a metropolitan area, I'd think I could still do it the same way.  If its big client or big trial day, dress it up.  Otherwise, all of those country suits are fine, Sator's objections notwithstanding.

I guess my opinion on the matter is that you can get a lot of mileage out of the things if you ignore the internet gentlemen who wouldn't know a "rule" from London clubland if it hit them on the swelled head.

EDIT:  Formby:  Ask me anything about The Sticks you like.  I live there.

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#7 2008-03-07 15:07:32

Sator
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Re: "Country Suits"

I have no shame in turning up to that great Aussie institution, the barbecue, wearing a bow tie and coat. Traditionally shorts and t-shirt are absolutely mandatory and an display even remotely resembling dandyism is considered a criminal offense. So I care little if people thought that I was wildly eccentric by wearing a tweed lounge suit.


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#8 2008-03-07 15:12:25

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#9 2008-03-07 15:17:43

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#10 2008-03-07 15:17:49

AQG
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Re: "Country Suits"

I'm not sinking to the local level, Sator.  Trust me when I tell you that those who do as I do around here are few and far between.  Admittedly, however, I am rustic degenerate without a single frock coat in the closet.  How I've managed to keep a full set of teeth I shall never know.

 

#11 2008-03-07 15:33:15

formby
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#12 2008-03-07 16:42:50

Marc Grayson
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"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#13 2008-03-07 17:03:29

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#14 2008-03-07 17:04:44

formby
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#15 2008-03-07 17:12:25

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#16 2008-03-07 18:35:44

tteplitzmd
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Re: "Country Suits"

I have 4 or 5 "Country Suits" and wear them frequently in the winter. Often they allow me to do without an overcoat, as I go from heated garage, to garage, or a sprint from a parking lot to a building. They are very elegant, very comfortable, and if you choose the cloth carefully, not too loud in terms of the trousers. Also, the jackets can double as sports jackets, leveraging the investment, so to speak.

The Porter and Harding GlenRoyal and Hartwist ranges are very nice. I also have a covert cloth suit, if that counts as a Country Suit. I do take some teasing from colleagues about the Country Suits, but never a criticism.

 

#17 2008-03-07 18:38:02

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#18 2008-03-07 19:34:40

The_Shooman
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Re: "Country Suits"

l've hardly seen anyone in Australia who wears country tweed suits or even overcoats for that matter. lt's usually too hot over here for all that type of stuff; + with airconditioning/heating, it's usually light wool/polyester suits that are worn for business. Many people in the country don't even wear a suit.

 

#19 2008-03-07 21:39:06

Film Noir Buff
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Re: "Country Suits"

I have a donegal tweed country suit which is 19 ozs from Harrison's Porter and Harding range. It is suprisingly cool and not that hairy, although no one will mistake it for a worsted.  Used mostly for blizzards I also used to wear it, oddly enough, to meet visiting tailors. Maybe it's bc they always wear them and I want to interface.

I much rather wear light weaight worsteds in 10 or 11 oz fabrics that look like tweeds. People still apreciate the tradition of the tweed but understand the worsted better and . I am not aying that they dont appreciate real tweed, and there are some purists out there who refuse to wear anything but the real McCoy. I myself would like to wear real tweed suits more but it just isnt practical.

I wouldnt advise going out and getting a tweed suit but I admire them on people, as long as they are not at an event like an outdoor rock or hip hop  concert.

 

#20 2008-03-07 21:43:47

jlmwrite
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Re: "Country Suits"

I can't remember anyone in my childhood dressing in tweed or any other classic English-country style clothes.  But then again, I grew up in the south, where even the winters were short and relatively mild, and the summers had a humidity and temperature both approaching the high 90s!

Summer getaways were very casual, and when dressing for dinner we could often get away with a seersucker jacket or doeskin blazer paired with reds or khakis.  No one went to the country in the winter unless you lived there or were visiting your grandparents.  Most of us owned the beat-up brown or grey Harris tweed jacket, but they were odd sportcoats and as such worn with flannels in the winter.

Now that I'm in Colorado (where formal seems to mean you've pressed your Wranglers), I own several tweed and corduroy jackets but still nothing that could be termed a country suit.


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#21 2008-03-08 05:25:22

tteplitzmd
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Re: "Country Suits"

FNB raises a good point. Worsteds that look like "tweeds." The GlenRoyal of P&H is such a cloth. The Glorious Twelves also. The appearance of tweed with the advantages of worsteds.

 

#22 2008-03-08 05:58:51

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#23 2008-03-08 08:46:41

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#24 2008-03-08 09:07:32

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#25 2008-03-08 09:15:48

The_Shooman
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