This is fantastic EGF. Thank you for it.
Great post egadfly!
This ain't trad, and it comes from a different place, but let me chuck in my (UK) tuppence worth then - for the sake of the whole picture. I think I'm about the same (late 60s) vintage.
Starting with the grown-ups: TUF shoes, later Clarks Polyveldts were the most often seen. Lots of suede footwear too. Traditional brogues for the older set. Towelling socks. Lots of cords and easy-care slacks - dad had a pair in lilac crimplene we gave him stick about for years. You would never see anyone over 50 in jeans.
Lots of chunky arran sweaters, lots of poloneck (=US: turtleneck) sweaters - Bullitt style - under sports jackets, which were most often a tweedy check. Ties if worn were often of the knitted variety.
I remember a lot of those checked 'western' shirts with press studs. Lots of rally style too: stripy anoraks, driving gloves, car coats.
As egadfly mentions, lots of Norwegian style knitwear about. Puffy down jackets, particularly the classic number by Mountain Equipment in dogshit brown with a bright yellow lining.
The old-boy look sported by our grandfathers: brogues, or sometimes slip-ons for slumming it, cords or flannels, lambswool or cashmere v-necks often in 'soft' colours, always a shirt and tie, tweed jackets in lighter shades. Overcoats, raincoats both long and short, and hats/caps very much in evidence. Nothing military-inspired, for obvious reasons. I think Fred Astaire was a huge style influence on this generation.
Youth style would be all about denim - jeans as well as jackets. Donkey jackets, lumberjackets and biker leathers. Thin, unlined nylon bomber jackets. Shoes: desert boots, Incontinence pants trainers in black leather, DMs, Dunlop Greenflash.
As kids we wore what we got given to wear: school uniforms, kilt and arran sweater on Sundays as a small boy, Clarks Commandos, canvas shoes with ridged bumper toes, perforated buckled sandals in tan leather, thin-soled trainers, wellies, shorts (Mum: 'trousers need to be patched, but your knees repair themselves'), stiff jeans, cords (preferably Wrangler), elasticated stripy 'snake' belts, hand-knitted sweaters (sweatshirts were for the well-off kids), duffel coats, diamond quilted anoraks, later cagoules and snorkel parkas. Lots of beige and brown. Occasional crazes swept through, like 'body-warmers' (i.e. 'down' vests) or lumberjackets. LED watches - you were nothing with a wind-up timex on a rally strap.
You would still be taken to a gents' outfitters to be kitted out. The rising supermarkets did not not stock clothes.
Last edited by Moose Maclennan (2008-03-14 04:19:12)
Good post Moose-I love posts like yours it really brings the clothes to life-I wish there was more of it around although in fairness I think in the last few days there has been more posting of this nature here .
The jeans thing you mention - reminded me of my fathers comments about jeans- " jeans are for workmen"
Do you remember the Incontinence pants T-shirts that were around in the 70`s bright coloured body with a contrasting colour of 3 stripes down the arm and the mottif?
all kids at that time seemed to live in tracksuits with wellies- not a look you see so much now adays.
When it was really wet and rainy -every kid in the village had a snorkel jacket-except me who had a brown annorak - because mother thought the snorkel jackets were common- don`t you just love middle class snobbery.
what was on the wrangler t-shirts at the time?
something about a guy called rickenbauer or something?
Last edited by heikki k (2008-03-14 05:59:31)
My ol' chum EGF hits the nail on the 'ead. The ol' Bean turtleneck indeed had a place in the prep pantheon. I for one, dressing as my sainted ones did of all ages, never noticed the 70's, but that's just me and me chums.
Excellent post, egadfly. Funny as I'm an 80s kid, yet much of what you write about is what I remember from my moderately-sized Southern town. These items weren't special or even class signifiers--they just were. Keep the discussion going, boys.
Archie
Growing up in San Diego in the 70s there was a Surf Trad style, especially in Point Loma and La Jolla. There was also a larger Surf Hippy style going on.
We (the Trads) wore OCBDs, cords, chino’s Pendleton’s, Birdwell’s, Tennis Shoes, etc. This style really got it’s start in the early 60s. There was a tribal aspect to all this. Our look was, essentially conservative, and set us apart from the hippies. They wore Ocean Pacific, Hang Ten, Earth shoes, etc.
Point Loma/La Jolla are wealthy areas and many of my compatriots were from wealthy families. People with the time to sail and party.
My parent’s were scientists. My father threw out a great early 60s wardrobe and went for the full on leisure suit look.. So I did not learn to dress Surf Trad from dear old dad.
Not once did I hear any of us call ourselves Trad or Prep. Rich and poor went to the local public high school.
There was cross-pollination going on between the Surf Trads and the surfers. As we all surfed the same breaks and crashed each other’s parties. I started out with more of a surfer look in the early 70s and ended up more trad when I graduated high school in ’79 (Point Loma High).
Us college bound Trads went through a class distinction exercise upon graduation. Between those who went to Stanford/Ivy and those who went to UC/State.
And I agree that OCBDs were the dividing line between Surf "Trads" and surfers. And I did sail--my family's 12 ft. Aqua Cat--a lot of fun.
Last edited by Voltaire's Bastard (2008-03-14 13:38:48)
Great post, EGF. Sounds a lot like what we wore at my (nerdy academic) midwestern prep school in the mid- to late eighties, where "preppy" reigned supreme, though I don't remember anybody using the word much. Lots of LL Bean and Lands' End. When the uniform was relaxed in my Junior year, most just ditched the blazer and continued to dress the same. White, blue, or yellow OCBDs or polos, chinos, surcingle belts, Bean mocs. The duck boots were worn at the first opportunity.
Sweaters were indeed important, the item you used to express your style. Wool crewnecks in dark colors--navy, forest green, charcoal--were big, as was the Bean Norwegian. I don't think anyone distinguished between shetlands and lambswool.
Turtlenecks were mostly worn by girls--always white, sometimes with a motif (cherries, anchors), worn under an OCBD (which were simply called "oxfords) or a gray sweatshirt. There was a fetish for wearing the sweatshirts turned inside-out, for some reason. This worn with pegged jeans and Bean blucher mocs with the coiled lace ends.
It wasn't talked about, but I think most of us liked dressing this way and were very aware that we looked nothing like most of the other teenagers in the community. When we mixed with public schools for debate or sports or whatever there was a lot of hostility directed at us, which we snottily enjoyed. Oh, they hated us.
I guess what I remember most was items that my older brother wore. He had a navy down jacket from North Face before they started putting logos all over their jackets. I think he still has it somewhere. Levis jeans. Hiking boots. OCBD, although back then, they probably werent RL or BB, but from a local mens store. Dress shirts doubling as casual under sweaters. Being a small child at the time, I was usually outfitted in corduroys with my trademark horn rimmed glasses. It wasnt a style choice, it was the only choice available. Woody Allen, eat your heart out.