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#26 2008-04-08 09:31:23

Yale Cameron
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Re: Need HK help

Horace, I would like to know the prices if its not too much trouble.  My father is now joining me on this section of the trip and will also be getting a suit made.  Do you know where the gentleman who you recently saw with such a nice SR cut suit had it made?  I am leaning toward Chan at this point just because of the US visits since it is pretty easy for me to get over to LA.

 

#27 2008-04-08 10:14:13

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#28 2008-04-08 13:16:30

Yale Cameron
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Shooman, I actually was never able to get the Cleverley shoes.  It just didn't work out for various reasons at the time so I think I will save bespoke shoes for a time down the road.  However, I could not be happier with the Leonard Logsdail suit and Paris custom Shirts.  Both are truly wonderful to work with and produce top notch products.  I would recommend both of them strongly to anybody.  They both went through great thought and effort to produce what I wanted them to produce while also being great advisers for both fabric and stylistic choices.  the construction of the Paris shirts is incredible sturdy too especially considering the cloths I purchased.  I think from now on I will go with slightly less fine cloths for shirts because they do wrinkle more than I would like and I often wear them without a jacket, but that is no fault of Paris.  They did an amazing job with the size and shape of the collar, my face just looks so much more attractive when a Paris collar is around my neck.  Paris also has an astounding selection of cloth on hand.  Leonard is incredibly accommodating and wonderful to work with.  He really does a good job of adjusting things about the suit for your particular body and is an absolute expert fitter.  It is a very british look which is what I wanted but he did a great job of adjusting the padding and roping in the shoulder since I have very broad and strong shoulder from football. It has a very clean, trim look to it.  His knowledge of how a cloth will tailor is equally impressive and really helps in choosing your fabric (I went with a Smith woolens super 120s worsted in a very deep navy with a slight herringbone in it that gives it a nice texture and vertical self stripe look to it).  I have also had some ties made by John Kochis.  I really like them as most ties are not long enough since I am 6'6".  Its really fun to choose tie fabrics and he is really good at judging your style and helping to go through the silks, which can be overwhelming because of the vast selection.

Shooman, you say Chan seems hit or miss so do you have any opinions on Yao or AMHC?  I ask because I have done bespoke and will be able to be very clear about what I want and understand the process, however, it will be my father's first time and I want to make sure we go to the one that will be best for him as a first timer.

 

#29 2008-04-08 17:15:28

tteplitzmd
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Since I am a satisfied client of Logsdail and Chan, and have also used Gordon Yao, let me simplify these matters:

Chan is clearly the way to go, contact them directly for pricing, but be sure to use your time efficiently when you go to Hong Kong, I would suggest considering cloths before hand, for example. They can email you scans of "name" cloths, e.g. Holland and Sherry, Zegna, etc. Prices are high for HK but they are beyond reproach in my opinion.

If you are happy with Leonard's work, bring it and they will copy it, and/or improve upon it! They actually showed me some minor changes in detailing and cut on a Chipp covert cloth topcoat I brought to HK for copying. I think they would do a very favorable job in emulating Leonard's work, to the point where, with a blindfold test, most of us could not distinguish one maker from the other, although if you showed the tailor's label I think Mr. Ma would identify the Logsdail work.

I have found Gordon Yao to be uneven, even trousers had to go back twice. His attention to detail is not good, although the handwork is quite nice. The problem is in the fitting and consistency. Chan will replicate beautifully.
Yao is the same price as Chan, but lacks a choice of linings, and inexplicably has very bad plastic buttons. Claims good ones are hard to get (not for Chan however).

Chan does not have a huge in stock supply of cloths, so you really should give some thought to this before visiting. They have some H Lesser suitings available, and can get the entire Harrrison's/P&H range, but again, they don't keep them in stock. I think they would be happy to get the cloth in advance of your arrival, but expect a deposit prior to arrival if you go that route. Their ethics and propriety are a model of how a good business should be run.

P.S. I would not order shirts from Chan, they subcontract, and I was not that happy with the topcoats, the sleeves were always too full for some reason. Jackets and trousers, just fine thank you.

 

#30 2008-04-08 17:30:43

iammatt
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^^^  You were using Corvato for awhile too, IIRC.  Are you now only going with Chan?  They seem to do a really nice job for a good number of customers, although, as you said earlier, they are not stylists.  I sometimes wonder what they think of some of the more avant garde stuff some forum members have had made up.

 

#31 2008-04-08 17:38:41

Yale Cameron
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Thanks plitz, that is good advice because I did not think of that.  My only worry would be that picking a cloth from a computer scan would be difficult because they may look very different in person.  How should I go about asking them for scans?  Should I give them the fabric house with a general color/pattern/weight?  I do not know harrisons, can you tell me a bit about them.  I was thinking of possibly scabal, lesser, H&S if they have the crispaire line which I have heard is a great lightweight suiting.  Do they carry Smith because I do really like the suit I had made in Smith fabric.  the biggest thing for me is the fitting and it sounds like Chan does a good job in that regard.

 

#32 2008-04-08 17:46:49

tteplitzmd
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I still use Corvato, with great satisfaction, especially for my unusual or expensive cloths, not readily available at Chan (Chan stopped accepting customer's own material since they got burned by some of our peers supplying defective or irregular cloths, then crying foul). With Mr. Corvato you get more traditional hand holding, which is missing from the Chan experience. Mr. Corvato's hand holding is limited however, and he has not entered the "lifestyle" market with a cologne.

 

#33 2008-04-08 17:58:07

tteplitzmd
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Re: Need HK help

Yale,

Go to any Scabal, Holland and Sherry, or Harrisons, P&H book, find some things you like, write down the range name, and swatch number. Send it to Chan and ask them to send back a scan to confirm it's the same thing.

No they don't have Smith.

Cloth trivia: the big woolen merchants often use different swatch numbers for the same cloth in different world markets. There are several reasons for this, but a lot of it has to do with locking you into a particular distributor.
They do not have the entire Lesser range, but I am working on that.

I don't think you can go wrong with a Harrison's, or Porter and Harding cloth, and most Scabal is fine. I would avoid the 'generic' no name cloths they may show in HK. A lot of this has to do with the peculiar methods of distribution of cloth in HK. A lot of the distributors actually hold limited inventory. With Harrisons they get the cloth directly from England, remember it takes a few days.

 

#34 2008-04-08 23:30:06

The_Shooman
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#35 2008-04-26 19:41:16

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#36 2008-04-26 23:00:40

Horace
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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#37 2008-04-26 23:20:19

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#38 2008-04-27 05:10:46

Horace
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I've bought shirts from AC -- very near the AMHC shop.  I don't have the discriminating standards of others here, but I enjoy the shirts.  Shoes, no.  I remember someone telling me about a place that was supposed to be good, but this was sometime ago, at that time, the shoes were USD 500 when Lobbs were just over USD2000.


""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#39 2008-04-27 06:13:43

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#40 2008-04-27 07:48:21

tteplitzmd
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Haven't these questions been "asked and answered?"

I would go with Laboratorio Chan, and move on.

 

#41 2008-04-27 14:02:46

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#42 2008-04-27 14:12:41

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#43 2008-04-27 14:18:59

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#44 2008-04-27 20:24:25

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#45 2008-04-27 20:29:24

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#46 2008-04-27 20:45:03

Horace
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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#47 2008-04-27 20:52:57

gentleman amateur
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#48 2008-04-27 23:55:06

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#49 2008-04-28 03:52:52

Horace
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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#50 2008-04-28 08:05:07

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