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#1 2008-04-15 03:45:02

Brideshead
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City King Brogues?

Here is thread I started on Modculture.  Little interest there, but it may just be obscure enough to generate some here!

http://www.modculture.co.uk/forum2/index.php?topic=6893.0

http://www.griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42827&page=3

Last edited by Brideshead (2008-04-15 03:46:43)

 

#2 2008-04-15 05:01:39

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: City King Brogues?

Lovely stuff!

Royals were made by the same company who made for Timpsons. Could it have been Faith as 'Faith Royals' is another name which floats around sometimes?

Bass certainly did not make them.

Early Loafers at the Ivy Shop were by Saxone - Still available in Paris, btw.

City King is a new name to me.

Best -

 

#3 2008-04-15 05:07:04

Brideshead
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Re: City King Brogues?

The thing that struck me as well is the close association with football - as noted many times, of course, by Robert Elms in The Way We Wore.  I certainly recall visiting Arsenal in 1970 when the whole purpose of going was not to watch the match but to pose in your new sheepie and Royals!

 

#4 2008-04-15 06:48:55

Tony Ventresca
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Re: City King Brogues?

I always find it interesting that in the UK you can buy cheap shoes that look classic, but here in North America cheap shoes have cheap design.

 

#5 2008-04-15 07:26:41

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: City King Brogues?

 

#6 2008-04-15 07:30:04

Brideshead
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Re: City King Brogues?

 

#7 2008-04-15 12:57:54

formby
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Re: City King Brogues?

Russell / Brideshead what are Royals..? I remember my elder brother talking about them when we were younger but I've never to my knowledge seen a pair....


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#8 2008-04-15 13:11:42

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
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Re: City King Brogues?

Royals were the heavy US style longwing brogues sold at the Ivy Shop & Squire. Smooth brogues were called G.I.s.
Black, Cordo coloured & actual Cordovan, Jim Ferguson informs.

People still asked for them in the Ivy in '87 when I was there, but they were long gone by then.

 

#9 2008-04-15 13:13:25

Tony Ventresca
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Re: City King Brogues?

^ Is this a case of a brand name being adopted as a general term? (i.e. "Hoover" instead of "vacuum"?)

 

#10 2008-04-15 13:16:22

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: City King Brogues?

In a way. More like slang I think.

Why were G.I.s so called, apart from the fact that they looked like G.I.'s shoes?

 

#11 2008-04-16 07:53:02

Brideshead
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Re: City King Brogues?

Back in 1970 'Royals' were called by that very name in The Ivy Shop.  That was what we would now call the 'brand'.  As Russell says they came in a longwing style (see link above to 'Royal Brogue') and smooth or 'plains' as we tended to call them.  A Norwegian fronted style became available a little later and was called a 'Gibson' but I cannot recall if the brand name was still 'Royals' - I think it probably was.  R_S may know......

 

#12 2008-04-16 08:22:41

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
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Re: City King Brogues?

You know more than me on that one, Bro.

 

#13 2008-04-23 07:01:17

Taylor McIntyre
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