Nice.
You're in the mood to expand Trad? (Not a loaded question)
I'm still very "which way should we jump?" - Trad as a distinct thing for today or Trad as a new name for the old style. Both are very do-able.
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I did cobble together a rough timeline when Uncle and I were adding to the "Boom Years" thread a while back. I will dig it out tonight and post tomorrow (my computer at home committed suicide last night...too much porn viewing, I suspect). When you look at the dates, it becomes quite interesting. Ivy doesn't fit exactly in time where we think it fits.
Absolutely.
This new thread should have not only the 'boom years' but also the years we might rather wish to forget...
For Traditional American menswear was indeed once teamed with shoulder length hair way back when.
Random:
Montgomery Clift around '48-ish. BD, Foulard, Tweedy Twill jacket.
A Brooks Customer since forever he also used a Swedish tailor in NYC at this point, but mainly he shopped at Brooks:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2741409792/nm0001050
Similar jacket in '47:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1651021824/nm0001050
There's more shoulder here than you might be used to, but this was common in the 30's & 40's for the Traditional American style at this point (See Apparel Arts). Shoulders in the 20's & 50's were far more 'natural'. Was this due to a military influence in the 30's / 40's?
Dunno.
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Entirely as one should.
Carry on, my good man!
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You'd know better than a Brit like me.
I always associate built up shoulders with the Military for some reason.
Probably the 30's / 40's shoulders were just fashion.
Which is just what Traditional American style used to be.
A little 1924 Classic American style from the Saturday Evening Post:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1924-2p-ad-PALM-BEACH-SUITS-Be-cool-straw-hat-time_W0QQitemZ300220690896QQihZ020QQcategoryZ156199QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting
Kinda 50's, eh?
Palm Beach again & now it is the 50's:
http://www.adclassix.com/a4/57palmbeachmensuits.html
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For me it's interesting that the 1920's and 1950's were both culturally 'Modernist' decades when 'The New' was really valued. The cars of both eras are the most obvious manifestation of this.
And I really love the idea of the post-war rebirth of that spirit. America was booming in the 50's and it remembered what a boom time looked like - The 20's!
It's 'back to the good old days' in one sense in the 50's but it's also (and I rather buy into Horace's comment on the growth of Suburbia) 'good old days' for everyone! Which is real democratic step forward for the perception of this style of dress.
When Tony V. has his technical problems licked all this will have more structure I promise. For the moment I'm quite enjoying all the banter & speculation.
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http://bulldog7299.blogspot.com/2008/05/tnsil-style-timeline.html
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Wow!
Fan-Bloody-Tastic.
In awe -
Excellent. You guys are impressive.
http://bulldog7299.blogspot.com/2008/05/official-preppy-handbook-at-yale.html
Bulldog is really running with this. Great work.