hip 2 (h p) also hep (h p)
adj. hip•per also hep•per, hip•pest also hep•pest Slang
1. Keenly aware of or knowledgeable about the latest trends or developments.
2. Very fashionable or stylish
That’s hip in a nutshell. Some flee from it, others feel like outsiders wanting in and still others take like it as a duck to water.
Hip is always more pleasing to women because it involves luxury, softness, up to date, approachable, successful, and expensive. You are James Bond without trying. You’re that modern man she’s been reading about and who wears those things that are always appropriate, you are never her father’s wardrobe only that man of mystery, even when she feels safe with you. You are Hip.
The concept of being hip in terms of style and clothes is an elusive one. Not easily explained, not quickly learned; at least not verbally. The idea of being hip triggers so many different reactions that sometimes the term itself may be counterproductive. Those who don’t feel they’re hip find that the very subject has them at a disadvantage, and those who already think they are hip scoff at the idea that they need to learn anything new. But hip isn’t just a dressing style, it’s an accent to the language of clothes that can make anything one wears in any situation that much more current. Being current is important because you are taken the most seriously today and maybe for the future. It is exactly the opposite reason people giggle at the passé. There are many different degrees of being hip and though it may just be a subtle message sent to the observer, it can still be powerfully suggestive.
This is why I split hip into different areas:
Old Boy Hip- has the look of the old money past but everything is made the best it can be and recently. It can apply to those situations at work or after hours but follows the most rules. Even the oldest firms change with the times. A Huntsman suit made today is a lot more hip than one made a decade ago even if theoretically the suits were cut using the same pattern. Sewing techniques change, cloths change, details change, lapels change. It’s foolish to pretend otherwise. This look is proof that you can be Hip merely by having relatively newly made suit/shirt/tie/shoes and hopefully, socks.
Hip- Has a disassociation with the old world. It still relies on some basic elements but it contains a certain rebel or counterculture streak to it. It also acts as a level playing field to disguise class or other irrelevant factors to express a “cool” forward looking “togetherness” of ideas. I only separate it from afterhours hip because I assume these are items that you would also wear to the more forward thinking offices, otherwise Hip is a subset of After Hours Hip.
After hours Hip- Can span the gamut depending on the crowd, the place and the nature of the wearer. The important thing is do something well from the choices at hand not to scoff at the look in general. Use desert island example, picking the right knit shirt to wear. In some ways this is the broadest because as mentioned time, place, manner, weather, wearer play a huge role. If it’s a jeans wearing situation, that’s so different from a brand new nouvelle restaurant situation.
Cutting edge Hip- Has a hand with the designers and is sometimes way to fashionable for serious office workers but nevertheless for casual and some industries it can be de rigeur.
Discuss the fallacy of wearing certain things because they have age associations because though part of being hip is referencing what everyone else is wearing like Old-Boy-Hip references the traditional past but you still want to look individual and different as well as choose from those things that flatter you vs. those things which you feel you must wear. I had a girlfriend who looked better in the brown dress but she just wanted black because everyone else had one ex.
Paul Smith: Then there’s the swinging London corollary which is a bit too colorful to be classified as standard hip and a bit too classically tailored to be considered cutting edge hip. It’s a very English phenomenon and a lot of it works in relatively conservative offices in London because it’s the sort of hidden message goodies the English love to wear.
Sometimes Old world things worn tongue and cheek look more hip than forcing yourself to wear things which you think are appropriate for your age. This can be as comic as wearing things not appropriate for your age, which seems to be the bigger concern. Wearing things that you and your personality can carry off is a lot more to the point of knowing thyself which is sartorial chi and about as hip as you can be.
The one that most men struggle with is After Hours Hip. After all, for Cutting Edge hip all you need to do is flee into the all encompassing arms of a designer.
Think of Hip as an amalgamation or a fusion of several different worlds all crisscrossing at night time. Without suggesting comparisons between each group or genre, these are the worlds that have contributed heavily to the Look of hip. Organized crime and fashionable secret agents (often international, often from the movies), alternative lifestyles, Hollywood and sports and music figures, African Americans, Fashion Designers, The smart set, International intelligentsia and not so intelligentsia. All of these elements are in the pot pourri of hip, each one of them has their extremes, the more you want to look like one, the less you look like another; like a many ringed venn diagram. If you want more of an element of danger, perhaps add more organized crime, if you want more playboy, then go in the direction of the smart set or Hollywood, if you want to look more fun and interesting, add some African American elements.
What do I mean? Let’s take a basic black solid suit and evolve it across the spectrum of Hip dressing. Although there are a myriad of differences and some genres do blend into other genres, we can see some differences. As a caveat, I am not suggesting that you have to be from one of these groups or walks of life to wear these combinations; I am simply making suggestions to add an element of style to your hip evening out:
Mobster: If European, can be quite sophisticated and revel in the club scene and the idea that they should wear lighter ties on darker shirts. Charcoal, black or midnight blue shirt with diamond or gold cufflinks.
Secret Agent: Or what I like to call, urban commando. Think Vin Diesel in the movie XXX. Black or ice blue hand finished mercerized cotton t-shirt.
Smart Set: Black cashmere turtleneck from the likes of loro piana or Christopher Fisher a black belt from Dunhill and black Chelsea boots with either a gusset or buckle side.
Designers: White tone on tone shirt with black solid tie. The men in black look with retro brogues or the latest shirt such as a three color (one background and two crisscrossing colors to form the pattern) checked shirt with the checks set on the collar, cuffs and body on their diagonal.
Hollywood: Either a black silk shirt with a spread collar
African American: Color is important here, a Fuchsia shirt a black belt with a silver buckle and a silver pocket square to hint at the buckle, black Prada shoes, gold watch; maybe a Cartier.
More Rock Star: Versace silk shirt, preferably with some black in the pattern even in outline to pick up the suit. A Versace belt maybe even with the Gorgon head buckle; maybe even a beautiful sterling necklace or pendant from Tateossian or Chrome Hearts.
Hip is all about luxury. Even when patterns and colors are traditional, it is clear to even the most uninterested observer that the clothes are expensive and sumptuously tactile.
Recently, I have been trying to decide what separates Hip outfits from those worn to the office and for the first time I have had trouble distinguishing them. It isn’t because people work less or play less, it is because the two looks are merging. Experimentation with clothes is a powerful force at the moment for American men. London too is undergoing a great deal of trial and error. For the first time ever, men are wearing clothes they want to wear, one foot in the traditional and one foot in the current. That’s why the traditional rules are relatively useless for men who want to dress well and individually.
I realized this partly because my City of London look of boldly striped suit, colorfully striped/checked shirt and contrasting woven tie is in NYC still considered colorful enough and novel enough to go from the office where men admire it, to social situations where it has enough color, texture and pattern to interest the fairer sex. There still remain some differences between office wear and stepping out, for instance, I might change shoes for Chelsea boots or brown suede lace ups but the future is clearly in the hands of men defining what makes them look good, important and ultimately, Hip.
Fantastic.
Hip IS all about luxury you are right. And that luxury can sometimes just be the luxury of being well informed.
It's a lost world now, what with globalisation and all that, but in the 80's & even as recently as the early 90's I could take commonplace American items and make them hip & even luxe just by their rarity in London - I'm thinking of the basic Brooks Golden Fleece logo-ed Polo which nobody had in London back then apart from, well... Americans.
Wearing real Levis in Communist Russia in the 70's was the same as this.
Funny story: I had a Carhartt Detroit from JS early on & wore it to death. It's a welders jacket (the care label inside warns you about setting yourself on fire), but I had TV producers & designers asking me about it in London.
Hip is all about a level beyond what everybody else does/knows/it aware of. The Hip are always in a gang of one.
I guess I’m too fogey at 61+, but I haven’t and am not likely to merge my business looks with my night out looks. I doubt I could, given my work as a government courtroom lawyer, though I don’t dress like most others in my profession or age group in either circumstance.
Example of dress for recent contested hearing in federal trial court: medium/dark gray 10 oz. sharkskin suit, two button, side vented coat, full forward pleated suspendered trousers; forest green/white butcher striped shirt, spread collar, barrel cuffs; rust/maroon plaid woven silk tie w/ yellow and green overplaid; foulard silk square, dark green ground with neat print and paisley boarder in maroon/rust/yellow/black; chestnut suede punch cap oxfords; yellow merino socks and barathea suspenders (unseen except for socks when seated at counsel table).
Example of dress for recent Saturday night dinner at upscale French bistro: matte black 8 oz. serge suit, three button, wasp waisted, slightly roped shoulders, deep center vent, narrow reverse pleated trousers; black croc belt, 1 inch wide w/ plain silver buckle; reverse stripe white on black spread collared shirt, open neck; silver gray silk square printed with black/white concentric circles; black calf dress tassel slip ons, thin sole, medium low vamp, narrow round toe; no socks.
FNB would probably call the work style “old boy retail” and the evening style “hippish old man (Jewish),” and I’d plead guilty to both.
Are you saying I should add a black blazer (with black buttons) to my wardrobe? I can see how it would be useful but I would only wear it as a substitute for a normal blazer. It might give a bit more edge though.
I see what you're saying but does this also tend to support the argument you've made all along: that everything is gradually just becoming an individual expression, at least among the most stylish--as in there is not really going to be a "Hip" or even an "Old Boy Hip" any more, but rather a "Coolidge" "Tony V." and "FNB" and it will be up to people's gut reactions to rate whether that's a good look or not.
Your earlier views suggested the end of style dichotomy is on its way as the country democratizes and people dress less to express station or class or background or anything except their individual taste.
I don't mean that the stroller is going to make a comeback as someone's individual look but don't you think we might then reach the point where things become so diversified that people just mix elements like crazy and, therefore, outside the realm of pure costume or pure bad taste, no one will be able to distinguish hip from not hip when people are mixing 80s ties with this years Huntsman with shoes from 5 years ago?
This is worth another read, I think.
Very good thinking ^^^^^^^. I remember that my late sister once said to a friend of mine: "You seem so bloody respectable - but - you're not really, are you, XXXXXXXX?" I think that there's something in that. They want to feel safe with us in dangerous company but they also want us to be a little dangerous too - or - at least, to take risks. The James Bond analogy is not a bad one at all; except that he wasn't remotely hip: almost exaggerately anonymous in his clothes; with the blue suits, white shirts and black ties: the most adventurous he got in the books (out of disguise as Sir Hilary Bray), was in the hounds' tooth suit in Goldfinger. The trouble is that few of us inspire Bond's precise balance of security and danger and I am very far from convinced that clothes alone do it; except to the extent they they truly represent it, as a reflection (maybe a distorted reflection), of what we (probably), truly are: at work; after work; a long time after work; and, long after clothes are on anyone's mind, in the cab, going to someone's home. Moreover, I do think that clothes, as an unbacked instrument of manipulation or influence: at work or at play, are useless on their own. they're just rags on our bones. Even the expensive ones.
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Hip means artiste. Artiste means black. However, all black disappears at night. So, mix in some white for the bright lights to reflect off of. Hence, dinner jacket and white shirt. Put the tie in pocket. Done.
Social consequences: Lady sees style, old school sees old school, artiste sees minimalism, doorman sees money. Results: you're everyone's friend.
Freshen up the lady on your arm. Repeat the next night.
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