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#1 2008-06-15 06:14:57

shuman
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Khakis over Jeans vs. Jeans over Khakis

A discussion of "Are jeans going out of style" on AAAC got me thinking, why do some prefer jeans over khakis (or cords, flannels, etc.) or vice versa. I thought this might be a good discussion to have.

For me, I wore jeans growing up, but switched to khakis, etc. during college. After college, wearing suits daily, khakis just felt more comfortable. I still keep several pair of 501's on hand, for doing dirty work or when the mood strikes me, which is rarely, but I always seem to regret wearing them all day. Call it Midwestern/ New England/ Trad functionality or sensibility. Khakis, etc. feel more appropriate for a wide range of situations. Yes, I may seem dressed up to those in cargo shorts and flip flops. Okay.

Maybe its my maturing figure. When I was relatively slim, jeans seemed comfortable.

Maybe its what we are used to, and nothing more.

Also, khakis, cords, and wool dress pants, for some reason make me feel more old fashioned, manly, and confident. Dont get me wrong, I have never felt efiminate, and wear pink, bright socks, and bow ties regularly. Maybe I relate more to the old photos than newer fashion. You can have your $300 japanese denim, I'll take JFK, Jimmy Stewart, or Richard Burton. I bet they never wore jeans, at least in public.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Give your input. Call it clothing psychology. Why do we choose certain items?

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#2 2008-06-15 10:14:31

Taylor McIntyre
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#3 2008-06-15 10:39:13

flannel
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Re: Khakis over Jeans vs. Jeans over Khakis

I restricts jeans to a few specific looks - faded 501's with a white spread-collar shirt, navy pinstripe jacket and white pocket linen. Heavy black plaintoes.

Really trashed 501's with pristine polos with long tails and old unlaced canvas sneaks (Tretorns etc.) - sockless.

Anything else does not appeal to me.

Much prefer baggy flannels or drill khakis for off-duty wear.

 

#4 2008-06-15 12:10:14

bandofoutsiders
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Recently "rediscovered" khakis after years and years of not wearing them under any circumstances.  Most likely because my parents dressed me in khakis daily in those years before I knew or cared what clothing was.  My longtime aversion to (and probably my relatively recent enjoyment of) the ivy league look is no doubt due to the fact that I was dressed in Ivy as a kid.  It wasn't a calculated effort though, my parents didn't say "here dear, this jacket doesn't have darts and these khakis aren't pleated, put them on."  More like, "hey, he's an American kid and this is what we wore when we were American kids."  My dad is neither trad nor Ivy, but he is devoted to natural shoulders, I remember this from my earliest blazer wearing days on Easter.

Anyway Ivy came back to me piecemeal.  First it was the OCBD. Then ties.  But khakis are back.  I get them tapered and tailored to slim them down, but lounge around the house in the baggier versions.  Wear them with brogues, chucks, or beaten up blue vans.  Won't wear them with top-siders though.  Topsiders with high-water Levis 519 cords (probably the best trou ever made), thats another story.  Never wear chinos in a suit context, prefer plain grey worsteds, even with navy blazers.  I wore a pair of slim chinos, white ocbd, navy knit tie and an olive, red and blue madras blazer to an after-work office gathering once for "casual friday."  Wearing madras in Edinburgh is a trip.  "Like tartan on acid," they said.

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#5 2008-06-15 12:13:07

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I don't think khakis are popular right now. I prefer jeans. If I get khakis theyre in the very un-khaki, navy blue for wearing with a casual shirt. Tan/light colored pants are a bad idea for the modern lifestyle of most men.

 

#6 2008-06-15 12:21:10

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Not wore khaki coloured pants since the late 80's when Levis chino's were fashionable here in the UK. Always had to careful when out on the piss with the boys especially when you had to take a leak, I think you all know what I mean roll Preferred jeans then and prefer them now...


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#7 2008-06-15 12:27:30

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#8 2008-06-15 13:06:31

Marc Grayson
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I love the pure utility and comfort, and low maintenance, of jeans, but jeans were not accommodating of my high-waisted torso until I found Carhartt and Diamond Gusset jeans, which fit me perfectly and comfortably, esp. the Diamond Gusset jeans, allowing me to wear jeans more often.  I recenty had several beautiful pairs of trousers made up, lap seams and the whole bit, from a limited range of John Hardy cloth made specifically for trousers, but, I do love the freedom of wearing jeans and not being concerned about getting them wrinkled and not having to press them.


"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#9 2008-06-15 16:05:17

Tony Ventresca
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#10 2008-06-15 16:26:23

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#11 2008-06-15 16:33:51

tom22
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to my mind anyone over the age of 30 who wears jeans risk their reputation. Not a good look for anyone who is not thin. contrary to contrary assertions, kakhis, born from WWII military fashion, remain the best match for a blue blazer and oxford shirt.
and they are the staple for summer shorts.

 

#12 2008-06-15 17:11:51

Coolidge
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I haven't worn jeans since I was 14. I've never thought I looked good in them.  I prefer them on girls, and eventually off them.

In all seriousness though I've never felt comfortable in them.  When there's something I need to get dirty doing I either wear old khakis or take out one of my pairs of those WalMart "khakis" called Dickies.  A lot of mechanics wear the blue ones...they are pretty durable.

As for the "going out in light colored pants" problem that doesn't happen to me...don't you guys shake (or wipe) when you're done?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem...I second Tony's call for you to expand on that, FNB.

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#13 2008-06-15 17:17:42

shuman
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#14 2008-06-15 19:40:55

tom22
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I'm trying to remember. You could not wear jeans to grade school. I remember I bought a jeans jacket that I had to wear in the locker in my brief stay at prep school. I never wore them in college. In law school circa 1980 suddenly someone invented designer jeans (they had probabaly been invented a couple of years before, this was New England mind you!).
    To me jeans were always kids wear. I know they have been a fashion on occasion since. To me they wuill always mean someone is trying to dress young.
    Jeans fashion is a joke. This is what you wore when you went out and played football with the neighborhood kids.
     You never wore it to dress up. But I never lived in 'Richistan'. The reference is deliberate. I never wore a turned around baseball cap, either.

 

#15 2008-06-15 20:26:00

captainpreppy
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Despite past disagreements, you and I sure are on the same page on this topic, Tom!

 

#16 2008-06-15 20:39:30

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#17 2008-06-15 21:00:28

Coolidge
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#18 2008-06-16 00:53:05

Moose Maclennan
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#19 2008-06-16 00:57:22

Taylor McIntyre
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#20 2008-06-16 03:23:54

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#21 2008-06-16 08:28:07

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#22 2008-06-16 08:39:12

Tony Ventresca
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#23 2008-06-16 08:44:27

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#24 2008-06-16 08:45:59

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#25 2008-06-16 08:48:33

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