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#1 2008-08-10 15:16:38

Hard Bop Hank
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Cosh Pockets?

A friend of mine is going to get a 3/4 coat, a single breasted Chesterfield made by "his Bond Street tailor"- dark blue Abercrombie cloth, with a claret silk lining and a black velvet collar and he had to have this cosh pocket...

I haven't seen pictures of it, yet. He said it's from the Krays or Richardsons, an East End London, gangster thing.

I was curious about it, and I found this somewhere on the net:

Cosh Pocket
Pioneered by East End tailors the cosh pocket is built into a tailored suit or coat under the arm to enable the wearer to carry a cosh without it being apparent to the rozzers and without ruining the line of his suit.
A gentleman can spot the tell tale bulge at ten paces but does not hold it against the wearer, for fear he might get coshed.

http://www.twochapstalking.com/dictionary/2003/09/cosh_pocket.html

The Kray twins (awesome David Bailey picture!):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Kray

The Richardsons Gang:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Richardson_Gang



http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34561


I was wondering if it's originally a "Teddy Boy" thing? He's usually rather into a "Gang Mod/ Suedehead/ Smooth/ Clockwork Orange" style...

However, I found this:

<<The story of the Teddy Boy movement

All began in the early 1950's in England. Some teenagers gangs appeared in the East End of London; they were called the Cosh boys. It was very easy to recognise them. They wore a very special rig : long jacket with velvet collar and cuffs, drain-pipe trousers like under the reign of Edward VII (1901-1910), bright ankle socks and slim Jim tie. There hair were "long" and greased. These Cosh boys terrified the English society : razor attacks, fights between gangs but also against the police, robberies ... After the Second World War England woke up with an headache ! Press needed a new term to describe these gangs which number increased each day? The word chosen was Teddy Boy(s) and Teddy Girl(s), Ted(s)>>

from: http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/7957/historique.htm

and this movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044515/

Anymore about this? Horace?


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#2 2008-08-10 15:28:32

Kingstonian
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Re: Cosh Pockets?

May I recommend a Scottish tailoring twist ?

Razor blades sewn into the lapels. This alteration can be done easily at home and is a useful feature if one is being manhandled during an affray.

 

#3 2008-08-10 16:52:28

Jeeves
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Re: Cosh Pockets?

Another favourite with some of the Scottish regiments was razor blades sewn inside their caps. In a fight you whipped off the cap and turn it inside out exposing the razor blades.

 

#4 2008-08-10 18:00:17

dempsey
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Re: Cosh Pockets?

check out the movie Small Faces about 60s glasgow gangs, an example of the said item in one of the scenes.



DON,T YOU JUST HATE THE KRAYS....well I do.

Last edited by dempsey (2008-08-10 18:03:32)

 

#5 2008-08-10 19:20:52

captainpreppy
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Re: Cosh Pockets?

I know Horace once brought this up on Style Forum some years ago. I should think carrying a cosh (which we Americans call a blackjack) in an integral pocket in the suit would throw the whole balance of the suit off and be very hard on the fabric and stitching. I should think it would also be somewhat obtrusive.

 

#6 2008-08-10 20:01:57

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
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Re: Cosh Pockets?


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#7 2008-08-10 20:04:16

Hard Bop Hank
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From: land of a 1000 dances
Posts: 4923

Re: Cosh Pockets?


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#8 2008-08-11 01:27:50

Moose Maclennan
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Re: Cosh Pockets?

... or are you just pleased to see me?'

 

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