Last edited by SubtleCool (2008-08-26 12:47:06)
Only London has Suss. Only London has the concept & the attitude.
Suss is a stone-cold hard evaluation of everything which never stops. It's a ruthless and never ending process which gives London its edge.
An example: Some American will tell you that Alden are the "Gold Standard" of loafers to which a Londoner will reply "Well how good can they be if somebody like you knows about them and is promoting them?"
Adolpho Dominguez was hip in London until Robert Elms was heard to drop his name. R.E. is fine, but if he's talking about A.D. then A.D. is over.
Wear Kenwoods & don't take any crap from anybody and you'll be Sussed for this week.
Next weeks rules will be strictly on a 'need to know' basis.
- I'll need to ask Chris_H & John Gall what they are.
Stay Sharp -
Jim wink
Can't let this go without adding my two penneth :-)
1/Only London has Suss - What a load of unadulterated, sycophantic bollox.
2/ Robert Elms is fine - No he isn't, he's just another Cling - On in a long list of Cling - On's whose wrote some shyte books yet because he's got a public platform he's lauded by the SUSSLESS has some sort of expert.
3/ A plant pot in a Baracuta will always be a plant pot in a Baracuta, end of.
Can a mod who always goe for safe accepted mod-choices a la Smedley, tailored strides, Tootal, DNA Groove be consider Sussed?
absolute beginner wrote:
Can a mod who always goe for safe accepted mod-choices a la Smedley, tailored strides, Tootal, DNA Groove be consider Sussed?
:-) Like your style AB, unfortunately I do not class myself as a mod, seeing as I take from my Suede, Skin & smooth days and put it all into today's melting pot, plus the fact that you only got a glimpse of a couple of day's of my wardrobe. Horses for courses old boy!
Basically I think 'suss' has very little to do with 'Mod' as such because after all that was just a ( 60s ) concept. I've mentioned in the past I can't take that whole 'lifestyle' attitude seriously from anyone over, say, 25 for that matter calling themselves Mods ( or whatever ). It's just a hobby slightly outside of the ordinary I find, nothing too special really. I love the whole idea of Mod mind you, but it should be read in spirit and not to the letter, that's where the true clued up thing would appear now wouldn't it ?
No offence meant to anyone, but that's always been how I see it....
Last edited by Alex Roest (2008-08-27 07:49:13)
Last edited by the style councillor (2008-08-27 11:19:04)
How about Fogeyism ?
Or Sloane Rangerism ?
Or Modernists, the essence of UK IL, which started as a middle class movement in the late 50's when MC was MC.
Or Beatniks
Can someone lighten up this thread!!!
RH
There's a place for suits and there's a place for combinations. There always was and there always will be. Apart from that, as far as I know, there was a certain fad in the late 60s for getting two suits made in different shades that went together... Tailors offered bargain prices for two suits, as they do nowadays. So, especially if you were short on money, you went for these options and you got two suits + two combinations at a bargain price...
You know, most mods and skins were working class kids or came from a working class background. It's not like the phantasies some guys have nowadays, these were kids and they weren't that affluent. Tailor made suits were always expensive and most would pay by hire purchase. I also read that a lot of the older faces sold their suits very quickly in order to keep up with the fashions. Midnight blue was indeed the most popular choice, along with other shades of navy and lighter blues. It was probably that popular because especially in the late 60s suits were almost exclusively worn as a smart dress evening choice for nightclubbing. You rarely wore a suit for the pub or for the terraces. That would have been too flash.
Midnight blue or petrol blue is a very smart option at the club. Charcoal grey wasn't that popular, you rather wore a lighter grey, sharkskin, airforce grey, pearl grey or something if it had to be a shade of grey. Two tone tonik in the weirdest shots were very popular, like bottle greeen and burgundy. Apart from mohair, tropical wools were popular, also cotton poplin suits in fawn and olive, seersucker suits, madras jackets and a lot of other stuff. But my point is, that you didn't have to have all these things! You made some choice and you wore this as long as it was fahionable...
Last edited by Hard Bop Hank (2008-08-27 17:16:49)
I remember blue worsted suits on mods and side vents on the suits. Before that I seem to recall centre vents were the standard.
I do not remember blue mohair suits. They were mostly light greys. Tans and chocolate browns (not mohair) were also popular in the late 60s
Modernists were arguably the most influential subculture since WW2, I'd agree on that. The point I was trying to make though was that just trying to emulate them is missing the very point, most of those ageing revivalists/traditionalists are pretty dogmatic IMO, whereas the idea of Modernism should be a mere inspirational factor which could/should be interpreted in very different ways.
Also, as I've mentioned before, you couldn't be more original than going back to the deepest root of Modernism : The Ivy League style. Dressing like that might still be 'Mod' in the true sense, when given that contemporary and individual twist. I wouldn't call it that ( the M word that is ) personally, but that too is besides the point really
^ Tasty banter, Lads!
I have much to catch up on...
... And my belated welcome to Mr. Absolute Beginner - AB are you aware that I came home to an email asking if you were me? These thing happen ...
Best -
Jim