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#1 2008-09-01 13:29:50
- Taylor McIntyre
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Trouser Leg Width / Loafer Height Ratio -
... We've been working on this one for a while...
In a nutshell:
Weejuns/Sebagos & LL Bean Classic LL Khakis/J. Press/Brooks/Target/Cherokee/Uniqlo Chinos really work.
Bills & Aldens just don't. FACT.
Bills are too wide in the leg & they dwarf the Aldens. They make you look like you're an old school Chinese woman who's had her feet bound.
The proportions are all to cock (English expression).
Bills are actually best with heavy Longwings. They don't suit a loafer at all as they are so massive. You need something really solid at the bottom of them to make them make sense.
So if it has to be Alden for you then get their Longwings or Smooths.
But!
Ditch the Bills & you can wear your Aldens with anything else and they work just fine.
So flip a coin - Whatcha gonna lose? Bills or Aldens?
Or keep them both but combine them with more skill?
Only YOU can decide.
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Last edited by Russell_Street (2008-09-01 13:30:35)
#2 2008-09-01 17:43:49
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: Trouser Leg Width / Loafer Height Ratio -
Weejuns and LL Khakis!!!
“No Room For Squares”
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#3 2008-09-01 23:19:15
- Bebop15
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Re: Trouser Leg Width / Loafer Height Ratio -
What about weejuns and bills?
#4 2008-09-02 01:32:13
- Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Trouser Leg Width / Loafer Height Ratio -
Last edited by Russell_Street (2008-09-02 01:36:52)
#6 2008-09-02 08:15:27
- Daniele
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Re: Trouser Leg Width / Loafer Height Ratio -
Levi's sta-prest and Alden tasselloafers?
#7 2008-09-02 08:20:26
- Taylor McIntyre
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Re: Trouser Leg Width / Loafer Height Ratio -
^ Not a problem.
It's all about proportion.
But if you're gonna wear baggy pants then you've got to wear big shoes. Think of the Circus and the guys in the bow ties who work there.
I am told that the great Graham Marsh wears his Alden LHS with rolled-bottom Levis, slightly short. A great way to wear an Alden in my opinion. Use it as a throw-away gesture.
Style!
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#8 2008-09-02 08:53:47
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Re: Trouser Leg Width / Loafer Height Ratio -
my feet arent large for my height so I can get away with a very narrow leg opening and have the proportions look right. I almost always wear 7.5-7.75" bottoms with loafers and laceups
I was in a upper end classic menstore a few weeks ago looking at their shoes (brands like Alden, Canali, Edward Green, Bontoni etc) and a dapper older gent was sitting in their lounge chair and I could overhear him mentioning to the guy that works there that "I was wearing Alden chukkas the way they should be worn, with a narrow leg trouser with large turnups" and that "no one gets it right anymore like *that* guy over there"
was a nice boost to the ego.
#9 2008-09-02 09:05:55
- Hard Bop Hank
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“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"
#10 2008-09-02 14:58:33
- the style councillor
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Bought a pair of strides today from a label I never ever thought I would wear, but after trying them on, they looked the dogs gonads, so I broke the promise of a life time. A pair of grey Hillfiger flat front slim leg chinos. RRP £100 down to £35 :-) They are the nearest thing to an original pair of Levi Sta Prest I've seen yet.
#11 2008-09-03 03:49:06
- Alex Roest
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#12 2008-09-03 06:43:27
- tintin
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Scroll down to 2nd photo. Alden tassels with J Press khakis. I think the proportion works. Having said that, I think Bills suck. More for their price than their quality or style. I spend $20 to peg the legs on cheap Duck Head khakis. Seems to work.
http://thetrad.blogspot.com/2008/08/trad-flying-attire.html
#14 2008-09-04 09:27:09
- Bebop15
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Can anyone speak to Trouser leg width/ loafer height ratio for Polo G.I. pants and Weejuns? (titntin, maybe?)
#15 2008-09-05 14:18:08
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Re: Trouser Leg Width / Loafer Height Ratio -
Bebop, this is just me but I usually have my pants pegged to a 7 3/4" opening. That's without cuffs and they're on the hi water side. I take 2" off my regular inseam.
I would not do this with the Polo GI pant due to the weight. I cuff these and keep them as they are; no pegging. They look great that way with a Blucher Mocc. With the pegged pant, I wear the Alden tassel (tan and reverse calf), a C&J cordovan penny, tan Gucci knock offs and someday, a Florscheim Yuma; I hope.
#18 2008-09-07 08:51:50
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#19 2008-11-11 10:11:28
- chetmiles
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After listening to Ken Lovegrove's advice, I had my olive green Bill's altered and then finished with a one-inch turn up; no break. They seem quite okay with very hefty Loakes or Jarman, but anything else - including the AE 'Lexington' which look nice with dark denim - is a no-no.
#20 2008-11-11 10:41:24
- Marc Grayson
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#22 2008-11-12 05:09:57
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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.