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#1 2008-11-11 18:34:42

tom22
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H. Herzfeld

They have a website up. Doesn't offer that much. But a store that merits attention. Send them an email. ask about shirts. A national treasure. It needs a national patronage.

 

#2 2008-11-11 18:47:47

Marc Grayson
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A real gem.  I don't think there's another store quite like them in America.  Their private label Lanella plaid flannel shirts are among my favorites.


"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#3 2008-11-11 18:48:01

tteplitzmd
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I am waiting for their sale. Oh, I forgot, Herzfeld never has a sale. Or so they have always said.

 

#4 2008-11-11 18:52:06

tom22
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I am not a patron but I know Alan Flusser featured an incredible number of Herzfeld shirts in his first elegant book. The moment my ship comes in............
     Actually I will check them out this Christmas season. I'm sure I will find something to buy.

 

#5 2008-11-11 18:54:54

Marc Grayson
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"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#6 2008-11-11 18:58:49

Marc Grayson
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"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#7 2008-11-11 19:02:46

tteplitzmd
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It's an inside joke. I used to buy Pantherella socks ankle length, at Herzfeld twice a year. Every visit ended with their hard sell on the rest of their stuff. I replied: "I'm waiting for the sale." The Salesman said: "Herzfeld never has a sale." I replied: "My point exactly."

I asked them about their intransigence, and the answer had to to do with Latin American and European visitors, who came to NY regularly, and bought year in and year out. Perhaps they will have to reconsider their economic model in lieu of the global meltdown. No oligarchs seen there lately.

Also, they violated Teplitz' law. I remarked that the quality of the Pantherella socks seems to have declined. I speculated that the Company had been bought. The owner didn't know. Turns out I was correct. Teplitz' law:
"Never buy luxury goods from someone who knows less about them than you do."

P.S. I did see identical Belseta microfiber outerwear at Herzfeld and D. Cenci. The latter nicely discounted forty percent on sale. I don't think Herzfeld is going to survive.

 

#8 2008-11-11 19:07:05

tom22
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Uh oh. sounding a bit ugly here. I better hurry down to the city to check them out. I only thought to give a boost to a small family store.

 

#9 2008-11-11 19:16:30

Marc Grayson
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"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#10 2008-11-11 19:24:10

Marc Grayson
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"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#11 2008-11-11 19:33:58

Marc Grayson
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Only bad experience I ever had at Herzfeld was when the owner talked me into having a "bespoke" suit made by their in-house "custom" tailor.  I have purposely forgotten his name, however, his father, a very good tailor, ran the NY outpost of the venerable London tailoring firm Bernard Weatherill, and I fell into the trap of thinking like father, like son.  Turns out the son is a self-admitted designer, not a tailor.  Expensive mistake, equally expensive for Herzfeld as I have not returned since.


"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#12 2008-11-11 19:57:22

tom22
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I am going to recall a different world. When I grew up there were far fewer stores. Most of the stores were family owned. There weren't any national chains. Undercutting prices was considered a bit immoral. The great story about this is John Ohara's: The Hardware Man. For those who don't want to bother, I offer a little taste of the morality of a very different world:
"How much for the goodwill?" said Lou Mauser
"A million dollars cash. Oh, I know it isn't worth it. Mauser, but I wouldn't sell it to you for any less. In other words, it isn't for sale to you. A week from Saturday night at nine o'clock, this store goes out of business forever. But no part of it belongs to you...........When this store goes out of business a lot of people are going to miss it. Not because it was a store. YOU had a store. But we had something better. We never had to give away footrules to schoolchildren, or undercut our competitors, and before we decided to do them we decided to close up shop. But first we gave some of the people something to remember. Our kind of store, not yours, Mauser."
......"No wonder you're going out of business. You should have been a preacher".
    "I thought about it", said Tom Easterly"But I didn't have the call".
     Once there was a world where integrity demanded that you not cut a price to drive your neighbor out of business. I remember that world from a long time ago. A different world. A different integrity.

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#13 2008-11-11 20:12:40

Marc Grayson
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The other philosophy in retail is that sales are a slippery slope in that consumers come to expect them, forcing many stores to have continual sales, seemingly on a daily basis.  Veterans Day is just another excuse to run a sale.


"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#14 2008-11-11 20:25:28

tom22
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I know. I know. I have no answers. But I grew up in the time when the stores were owned by the prosperous people in town. I think the incomes were all a bit closer. And if you made your money from the local economy you had to have some concern for the workers. But I have no answers. I do remember the time when all of the stores were local.

 

#15 2008-11-11 20:33:00

tom22
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Of course the stuff was in some sense more expensive, but maybe it was cheaper. Is the stuff from China cheaper if it puts our neighbors out of work? I don't know. But my instinct is to buy the stuff made in the USA or at least Canada. I just have this gut instinct that we need to make stuff here.

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#16 2008-11-11 20:36:50

Marc Grayson
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"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#17 2008-11-11 20:42:17

Marc Grayson
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http://www.mrketplace.com/content/features/issue-overview/issue-story/?no_cache=1&tx_magissue_pi1%5Bpointer%5D=0&tx_magissue_pi1%5Bmode%5D=1&tx_magissue_pi1%5BshowUid%5D=93


"‘The sense of being perfectly well dressed gives a feeling of inner tranquility which even religion is powerless to bestow." Ralph Waldo Emerson
"Looking good and dressing well is a necessity. Having a purpose in life is not."  Oscar Wilde

 

#18 2008-11-11 20:48:28

tom22
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I was listening to Amity Schlaes on Bloomberg radio at some point today and she conceded: "That is the argument my father makes: we need an industrial capacity so we can defend ourselves. That is a pretty good argument!" Nice girl. Very pretty. Needs to learn something about the Depression though.

 

#19 2008-11-12 04:37:10

rsmeyer
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#20 2008-11-18 13:13:28

tintin
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I think it's hard to go wrong with Ira showing you around.  Ira also showed me some stuff in the back in the jacket / suits area that were marked down.  A nice orange husky jacket that I should have snagged was marked down considerably.  I live in the hood and I'm afraid they're not gonna make it.  Another one bites the dust while Daffys chuggs along with some of the biggest morons for employees I've ever seen.

 

#21 2008-11-18 14:03:10

tteplitzmd
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tintin,

Yes, this is how it starts. The Herzfeld ("Herzfeld never has a sale") days are numbered. Unfortunate, since it's sort of preventable. I don't even get my Pantherella socks from them anymore (better selection and cheaper on Sierra Trading). D Cenci seems to survive with sales and equal markup.

 

#22 2008-11-18 21:51:46

tom22
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Interesting. I need to get to Cenci when they have a sale. I meant to post this on another thread but I always assumed that the Brooks sized socks, made in England, occasionally on sale, were made by Pantharella. Plain, not exciting. But the quality is obvious. These are luxe purchases.

 

#23 2008-11-18 22:31:14

Horace
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""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#24 2008-11-21 17:37:07

tom22
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The answers to your questions are: No I did not claim to be 42 in whatever post you refer to. You are mistaken.
    No. you have completely misinterpreted the story. You insist on interpreting the world through the prism of your prejudice. The story had nothing to do with ethnicity. It had to do with capitalism and morality.
     Horace, you need to move beyond your obsession with me. And your obsession with the Irish.

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#25 2008-11-21 17:43:19

tom22
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Ps: I love dancing to a swing music beat. That is the world I aspired to. I met some women who changed my life because they were dancers. If you can't dance i really don't have much interest. Just sort of boring, if you can't dance.

 

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