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#1 2009-02-08 13:16:32
- Decline & Fall
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rolled sleeve
"I like bars just after they open in the evening. When the air inside is still cool and clean and everything is shiny. The first quiet drink of the evening in a quiet bar-that's wonderful."
— Raymond Chandler
#2 2009-02-08 19:39:34
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Re: rolled sleeve
I actually do this quite a bit when wearing generically-sized shirts, which are always too long for me in the sleeve.
I never thought I was looking cool like Cary--I'm always mildly embarrassed by/uncomfortable with the effect, feeling I suppose like a lady wearing a pencil eraser on the back of an earring.
I have a strange fondness for the sight of a perfectly puckered cotton cuff falling briefly but vividly from the sleeve of some tweed or corduroy or flannel jacket.
I find the rolled cuff an irksome compromise
I begin too many sentences with the personal pronoun.
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#3 2009-02-08 19:43:32
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Re: rolled sleeve
PS
I always assumed Grant rolled his cuffs for the same reason I do: The sleeves are too long.
At this point in the movie, that's not his shirt. The feds have provided him with a fresh set of clothes, which did not fit as well as his custom gear from the earlier scenes.
#4 2009-02-09 00:55:27
- Taylor McIntyre
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Re: rolled sleeve
http://godscopybook.blogs.com/gpb/images/anthony_perkins2_1.jpg
#6 2009-02-09 08:27:04
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Re: rolled sleeve
I can see the roll with a jacket. For a while I was paranoid about shirt shrinkage and had bought my shirts in 34 when I shirt have ordered 33. This was fine when I was buying cheaper shirts but proved problematic when I moved on to the better quality stuff. The point being that I have seen the overly long sleeve poke its ugly elongated head out of a jacket sleeve and it is not a beast I like, so I can agree there.
Russell Street's photo illustrates the challenge I see. Mr. Perkins looks great, but if I did that tomorrow, I would spend a lot of time answering questions about why my shirt looked like that. Our questionable gentleman has previously posted about the guts to wear stuff w/o caring about the thoughts of others and a failure to meet that standard might explain it too, I guess.
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"I like bars just after they open in the evening. When the air inside is still cool and clean and everything is shiny. The first quiet drink of the evening in a quiet bar-that's wonderful."
— Raymond Chandler
#7 2009-02-09 08:35:36
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Re: rolled sleeve
So I dug through archives today to find my copy of Flusser and was convinced gremlins had been there, given my difficulty in finding said text. I did find a great photo book that I didn't know I owned called Birth of the Cool (http://www.amazon.com/Birth-Cool-1957-1969-Martin-Harrison/dp/0670888184/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234193295&sr=1-5). Definitely a happy surprise that I will have to have a sit down with. A brief flip through found some great Rolling Stones and Twiggy pics.
However, with further digging I did find my Flusser. I do not have the energy to scan the pic of Astaire (see page 140 of Dressing the Man) but I can quote the text:
"The debate b/w stiff, separate collars and soft attached ones had lost much of its steam by the time button-down connoisseur Fred Astaire appeared in this next picture. America's own master of stage, screen and soft style liked his Brooks button-downs with just about everything: DB suits, dressy wedding ties, cardigan sweaters. He even pinned the collar down just to show it who was boss. Perhaps it takes one jaunty performer to appreciate another, as Astaire's folded-back shirt cuff plays the perfect foil to his collar's unpredictable roll. Like the dancer's gait, his clothes always appeared in perpetual motion.
I quoted at length b/c I think it's a beautiful paragraph capably illustrating how good clothes writing can be.
Last edited by Decline & Fall (2009-02-09 08:36:04)
"I like bars just after they open in the evening. When the air inside is still cool and clean and everything is shiny. The first quiet drink of the evening in a quiet bar-that's wonderful."
— Raymond Chandler