Last edited by Moose Maclennan (2009-04-09 01:37:34)

Dessies, Levi's, Oxford, Crewneck, French crop

fresh out the barber shop

steppin out tonight for pre easter fancy dinner party and i m planning on the following

EG brown brogues
charcole gray socks
tan poplin suit
plain brown leather dress belt
white heavy startch ocbd
bow tie - navy and gold brooks #1

maybe the socks should be navy to?

No disrespect, but Henri Lloyd has a bad, bad reputation in this neck of the woods in 2009.  All the fault of Manc post-Perries.

Sorry, old boy.  You're absolutely right, Mancs are Mancunians, i.e. the citizens of our very own Detroit.  The 'Perry Boys' were around circa 1980-81, and their younger brothers were the ones who took Henri Lloyd, HH, Peter Storm and plenty of other good stuff - Timberland, Smedley, Burberrys', Lacoste - and hammered it into the ground.  Frankly, it looks good on you, but that's because its in context.  There is a story here - context-wise - which has nothing to do with Ivy vs. Trad or anything of that nature; it simply acknowledges the alien nature of US clothing in an English working class setting.

Well: the working class kids tended to acquire (by fair means or foul!) anything that was a status symbol.  Lazy thinking would have you believe it was something to do with the right being in power here between 1979 and 1997, but that's just trendhounds like Elms and Hewitt trying it on... 
Different cities adopted different styles, and I think HL was a northern thing - Manchester/Salford - whereas London was more Gucci, Prada and Aquascutum. 
Trainers had been massive in Liverpool - especially Incontinence pants.  A rather amusing book by Phil Thornton goes into the history of this.  So does Hewitt, a bit. 
I guess it goes back to our teddy boys from around 1952: spending most of what they earned on their gear.  Then mods did much the same thing.  Some of us Ivy fans have got into trouble with our wives for our spending habits!

Well, Manchester and Salford are pretty close to Liverpool, and there might have been a marina.  Boat shoes were definitely big for a while.  It's now just casual-wear - not necessarily chavvie, but not good either.  I mean, Bench is rock bottom, then HH, Fred Perry, HL (IMO).  Barbour had their turn - the casual look changed sometimes week by week.  London boys probably wouldn't be seen dead wearing Manc gear.  Look on Ebay sometime, though - the UK site - and you'll sometimes see early 80s sportswear going for big money - the Borg trackie top for example.  Stone Island is probably the last bastion - but the serious boys always removed the compass in case police intelligence were infiltrating their firms.  Italian brands became the top status symbols for a while:  Mandarina Duck etc.  'North Face' jackets are now ubiquitous and nasty.

Last edited by AQG (2009-04-10 11:58:24)

I like the sweater.  I have an ancient merino job with a hole in it.

'Crunchy' is a new one on me - though I think I get the picture.  Outdoors types?  Like the super-duper blonde chick in the Sebago catalogue?