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#1 2009-04-16 07:11:30

chetmiles
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'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

I first became aware of the 'concept album' (as I believe the things were called in those days) just as I left school: no qualifications, no future.  That kid and his trainers...  the scooter...  I'd no real idea of what a 'mod' was, not then.  Hewitt would have us believe they had facial hair, star jumpers and cornish pastie shoes, but I still don't buy it.  My brother-in-law wore Trickers and flicked eagerly through those wooden boxes at Wigan in search of rare vinyl, but I've never heard him call himself a 'mod', or the people round here who are old enough to have gone to the 'Twisted Wheel'... 
      I knew the Who from before, thought they were okay, changed my mind later.  A mate of mine designed some of the gear for the movie - Leslie Ash, bit of all right... 
    The Jam and Weller were a different story.  Their early boob about voting Tory damned them completely; and that dodgy clothing...  This morning, though, I bought the book from a charity shop (brown paper bag, please), flicked through, had a good laugh at the pictures: 'My Ever Changing Fred Perry', and quietly pissed myself laughing at Toffeeman's anecdote about Weller's buying habits...  All that Red Wedge stuff...  Wasn't it a poncy haircut first, much fancied by the Mancs and scallies? 

Just having a giggle myself...

 

#2 2009-04-16 09:43:50

chetmiles
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

'Paul Weller is the John Lennon of the Grange Hill generation'.  And the 'Multi-Coloured Swap Shop' generation, taking their political cues from John Craven's News Round. 
And there's old Mick Talbot, posing in front of the Eiffel Tower like some nautical faggot on extended shore leave. 

Leap to their defence, somebody!

 

#3 2009-04-16 10:39:04

Just Jim
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

I remember 'Mod' as something 'new 'in '79 & I remember 'Preppy' as something 'new' in '81.

Bag of Shite!

 

#4 2009-04-17 08:04:57

Astridsdad
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

I couldn't stand The Style Council as 9 year old, simply down to the fact that Mick Talbot had such shit hair.


Bustin' makes me feel good

 

#5 2009-04-17 08:15:12

H. Logg
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

I'm always amazed at how Weller is held in such high esteem. He's hardly a musical or style genius. I could accept that he has fans (there are some fairly good songs by him) but he's practically regarded as a god (for Christ's sake!!!).

 

#6 2009-04-17 10:00:21

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

"And as it was in the beginning, so shall it be in the end
That bullshit is bullshit, it just goes by different names"


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#7 2009-04-19 07:45:59

Just Jim
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#8 2009-04-19 08:06:05

chetmiles
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

The 'oo did dress quite nicely early on, didn't they?  The Meaden influence?

 

#9 2009-04-19 08:17:46

Just Jim
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

Mod, not Modernist, but I find the late Mr. Meaden very interesting. The prototype of a sort of person who we were to see a lot of later.

 

#10 2009-04-19 08:20:11

chetmiles
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

One of those figures, like Roger Eagle and Guy Stevens, who has become almost legendary.

 

#11 2009-04-19 12:39:00

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

#12 2009-04-19 13:34:16

chetmiles
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

All very true and exceptionally well-informed, Hard Bop.  I guess the early scene, before it all got out of hand with beach fighting and LSD, was extremely fertile in all sorts of ways.  It just got far too poppy and navel-gazing later (the latter sin having much in common with free form jazz and the avant-garde: Shepp, Ayler etc.)

 

#13 2009-04-20 00:48:06

Just Jim
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller

The lines are absolutely blurred. Agreed, Hank.

 

#14 2009-04-20 07:57:54

Suitedbooted2000
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#15 2009-04-20 08:01:22

Suitedbooted2000
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#16 2009-04-20 12:39:56

Hard Bop Hank
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Re: 'Quadrophenia' and Mr. Weller


“No Room For Squares”
”All political art is bad – all good art is political.”
"Would there be any freedom of press or speech if one must reduce his vocabulary to vapid innocuous euphemisms?"

 

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