Mark my words - -this is going to take off!
http://thetrad.blogspot.com/2008/12/trad-sets-trend-cuff-square.html
When I was younger, I thought that cuffs were square as such...
Everything had to be somehow minimalist... and kinda mini- not necessarily bumfreezer jackets and high water drainpipes, but a very slim line and shorter hemlines in general... no break in the crease! no fullness in the legs or in the seat, and no swelled edge, no patch pockets...and I never had turn-ups in my trousers... jeans were different: I often had little turnups about 1 or 1,5" with my jeans, but not with dressier pants...
I didn't like the taste of coffe, cigarettes, beer and booze, too...
You get older, you try things, and eventually, you might find out that it works with tweed and flannel and all the heavier materials, and it adds a nice sporty touch, I guess... like a subtle 1,5" cuff and a TNSIL jacket...
But I'm not sure, if I will ever try the cuff square...
Now, that you can prove that you were the first...
These belong up there with the french-cuffed short-sleeved shirt - Inspired work!
I'm busy developing a range of 'L-Bows' for the Trad market - Short sleeved shirts which end in little collars, not cuffs, where tiny plaid bow ties may be worn to add a nice festive touch this Christmas.
Hank- Funny how we change although I still can't handle brussel sprouts. Well said.
Cheeky Monkey- Eric stole everything from me. Hard to establish yourself in the fashion world when you're a park ranger.
Jim- I like it. And you could do an easy hand puppet as well.
IL of G- Increased sales?
TinTin and Uncle your ideas and thoughts have inspired me- and thus I have created the Dick Dickie- in essence one would take a bowtie and tie it around ones penis-ensuring one is correctly presented for the lady in your life-one problem I have encountered is the discrepancy between blood flow in a flacid state and in an aroused state-however one compensation of this is a harder and longer erection.
I would however like some guidance from the Gentleman of this fora- should one remove ones dick dickie before insertion?
If your dick dickie remains in place through out the encounter- what is the best method to remove female secretions and male emmissions?
Cheeky- You should go with a mock turtleneck rather than a bow tie. A turtleneck can be worn exited or not. Should the turtleneck be manufactured of a latex (lubricated or not), one could leave on and dispose of when finished. Just don't leave it in my front yard.
Best of luck Tin Tin! True designers innovate and most designers imitate. If todays menswear designers designed cars, we would all be driving the same model the past 100 years.
I asked a question before in another fora and never got a response so maybe the Gents could answer this question.
What is the difference between a menswear designer and a menswear tailor?
What is the difference between a menswear designer and a menswear stylist?
Tin Tin ~ Even if your cuff square doesnt take off, keep imagining what else you can do with your ideas. People laugh, but keep believing in yourself. The greatest inventions in the world happen by accident and experimentation. Stand Tall and be confident cause the naysayers just wished they had your imagination.
Eric- I'm not sure what to say although I think Fromby did a great job of answering your question.
To clarify the cuff square, it was considered a somewhat critical observation of some of those I worked with at Brooks Bros. many years ago. ie: That's the kinda guy who'd wear a pocket square in his trouser cuff.
You're point regarding designers today has merit. I often wonder how I ever developed a love of the cloth. I've worn a number of uniforms (Army, deputy sheriff, national park ranger, Navy ROTC, 18th Century Spanish and British soldier as well as Brooks Brother's salesman) and a big part of it for me is discovering the history of whatever it is I wear. To be grateful and going to extremes (spending $40 tailoring $14.00 chinos) is more than just a hobby.
Cecil Beaton said, "It is the manufaturer who has the bad taste, it is he who believes that this bad taste is what other people want. Tradition is destroyed and replaced with nothing. What is culture but a sense of the past continually revivified in their present act." Geez, that was in 1954. And he nailed the problem today. Designers taking a traditonal piece of clothing and screwing around with it just so they call it their own. I mean, at least your original. But if you steal my trouser cuff square I'm getting an attorney.
Tin Tin!
I guess you dont want to respond , nor post my email I sent to you on your blog. I see you want to knock off my roll-your-own bowtie and claim it your own. Show some respect for the industry knockoff.
Better yet, I going to post the cuff square on my website and email the 300 or so editors I have access to around the world. I think that is what I am going to do.
The glennie pant cuff square coming to a store near you!!!!
Ha! You were saying you dreamt about the idea, Right, You were dreaming about www.ericglennie.com
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Good to hear from you Glennie old boy! How go the efforts to revolutionize fashion?
I've got a challenge for you. There are not a few denizens of this dark place who believe that the last word in clothes is America in 1961. Only, it's really in London. And it's now. Confused? Me too. So can you bring your formidable talents to bear and update this Ivy biznai for today? Put paid to these antedeluvian fashion obsessions? I'd love to see some concept drawings. Copyright 'em first. There are some unscrupulous characters hereabouts.
Eric- Uh, I did post your comment. Go here: http://thetrad.blogspot.com/2009/04/trad-sets-trend-layered-bow-tie.html
When you posted this comment I wanted to see your bow tie and even asked you. But you never responded and you didn't even have a blog. Now you do of which - - at this point - - 4 people have looked at your profile. Nice try. I'm familiar with the back date posting option as I'm sure you are-- I'll have my attorneys contact google with a request for the actual post date. Just kidding. About the attorneys - - not about the rest of it. By the way, I don't work in fashion. So you can steal from me all you want.
Take another look. Your comment was posted the day it was received. I have posted every comment save the 15 sent in within a 24 hour period asking that I smell the commentator's butt. If that was you I apologise. Lastly, I have no desire to join the fashion industry seeing how I've been employed for 22 years in another industry where, sadly, no one cares about bow ties.
Enough feuding with Tintin already, Eric! How about some fresh designs?
I guess I have to more careful about what I ask for.
I just had an article in the LA Times about my congruent neckties. http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-ig-tie5-2009apr05,0,2529559.story
Checkout my website www.ericglennie.com and see their horizontal congruent and vertical congruent cousins. One of kind neckties that you've never seen before.
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If you've been to a Mod/6Ts club, and then you go to, say, Ronnie Scott's...
if you went hunting for clothes at shops like What The Butler Wore or the Camden stalls of "Dandylife" etc., and then you go to J.Simons...
you will know the difference!
J.Simons is nothing to do with fancy dress and period reenactment...
... Take a look:
http://www.whatthebutlerwore.co.uk/
http://stores.ebay.com.my/Urban-Village
...
nothing wrong with these people, have some mates, that look like they stepped out of a time machine of 1963 or say 1967, but it's really a different style... or better, there are a lot of different styles...
you see lots of loud pop art things, "mad" colours, "groovy" patterns, tight hipsters, some of them so low rise, you wonder about how they defy gravitation, especially with those heavy belts... there's a lot of paisley shirts and other floral patterns, jackets often have a strong waist suppression, some go to the extremes of Nehru collars and Count Dracula Regency collars, others might indeed go for copying a style from 1961 in minute detail... you also still see a lot of 2-tone tonic, maybe even some "electric blue" or "electric purple", you see light-weight, thin sole shoes, lots of pointy toe and chisel toe shoes, a lot of clothes you see on record covers of British Bands, usually ca. 1964 up to 1967 and beyond... and then there is of course the parka uniform...
some of these girls and boys look good in these vintage things, but most of that stuff, look ridiculous, at least, when you're older than twenty-something, and most of the people in this scene are in their 30s or 40s, now...
Nevertheless, I like to see people wearing this stuff, just for the sake of variety, even though I wouldn't want to wear it myself.
However, JS style is a different cuppa. I was overwhelmed, when I found it, although I had bought some original American clothes before (Brooks online, ebay, etc.)... words will fail me, but I can definitely relate to the Russell Street story... "A Visit to J.Simons" on the JS homepage...
It's a classic, timeless style... it's traditional and modernist at the same time, but it's neither "trad", nor "mod"...
Of course, you have to know how to wear these things, and what suits you, what's a good combination, etc... but with these guys you always get good advice, and they are never pushy...
... and the last thing: there's no rule book:
I've picked up a very nice foulard tie, it wasn't American, I think it was a French brand, or something, and it wasn't narrow, but it was a very beautiful tie... however, I wondered why they sold this style, and a little bit stupidly, I asked, I think it was Ken, why they sold this style of tie....
... He replied very friendly: "it's a well made tie, and it's a classic design", without taking the piss, he checked, if something was wrong with it, put it back and said that it was second hand, but in perfect condition, however, he didn't even ask, if I wanted to try it on...
Instead I bought a much cheaper knit tie, anyway, as I had settled for...