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#1 2009-04-25 06:32:02
- chetmiles
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The Absolute Centre of the Known Universe
'Mod' is - was - a London thing.
Ditto Ivy.
London.
Parts of London.
The north and the Midlands may have had their scenes, but they were only imitating what they saw on 'Ready Steady Go'. They'd say they kept it going longer (in one form or another). But Paul Smith didn't stick around Nottingham forever, now did he?
Jewish youth, gay or otherwise, in east and north London brought it into being.
Americans, we love you and you're important to us, but the UK is different. It's far more complex.
It's London.
Speaking as a provincial, Chetmiles xx.
#2 2009-04-25 07:16:46
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Re: The Absolute Centre of the Known Universe
And from London we spread out to the U.S., Paris, anywhere we fancied.
I've spent far more in the U.S. than in J.S.
#3 2009-04-25 07:19:20
- chetmiles
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Re: The Absolute Centre of the Known Universe
That's a nice way of putting it. JS would surely be comfortable with that. He would, in fact, be hip.
"I'm hip"
"You don't look hip"
#4 2009-04-25 07:23:45
- adam!
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Re: The Absolute Centre of the Known Universe
wish there were more kids in to this thing.
#5 2009-04-25 07:30:11
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Re: The Absolute Centre of the Known Universe
So do we, adam, so do we - we'd love it. How old are you? Tim's quite young, I think. He posts here on and off. But yes, you're the guys who'll carry the torch.
#7 2009-04-25 08:46:12
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Re: The Absolute Centre of the Known Universe
Adam, I'd give almost anything to be 17 again and know what you know now. Of course it was all the Sex Pistols and the Clash back then. Tim sounds like a good kid - I wish he'd post more often. Have you tried sending him a Personal Message?
#12 2009-04-26 07:18:47
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Re: The Absolute Centre of the Known Universe
We are nearly all outsiders looking in - provincials like myself no less than Americans. It can't be helped, it's just the way it is: accidents of birth if you will. UK Ivy made the journey from the East End to Soho, Stoke Newington to Soho. Soho now - as Jeffrey Bernard expressed it - is so boring (and Covent Garden the pits IMO), which is why Ivy/modernism is becoming part of the historical landscape. It's a waste of time my pretending I'm making a difference. I just eat my gnocci, listen to Coltrane, read Cheever and Roth, watch countless movies and observe the world of reality in 2009 through the window, knowing they're as indifferent to me as I am to them. No, their indifference is the greater. Ivy? Dunno nothin' 'bout gardenin', mate...
#13 2009-04-26 10:42:06
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Re: The Absolute Centre of the Known Universe
I'll claim outsider status too - SW3 & SW1 are all wrong for London Ivy.
#14 2009-04-26 11:22:56
- Hard Bop Hank
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Re: The Absolute Centre of the Known Universe
“No Room For Squares”
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