Last edited by Alex Roest (2009-04-25 06:44:32)
Agreed, Alex. Exactly what I was trying to express on a previous thread (or two). Nothing in the world was going to persuade me to buy a £50 Chinese-made Haggar shirt from John's when I could walk up to Camden High Street, buy Brooks and suchlike at a fiver each and still buy the family an Italian dinner. Just because it was J. Simons etc. etc. Only a complete nebbish could be so absolutely undiscriminating. Would the man himself respect it? I would hope not. Look, when you see Gap in there you do begin to search your mind for a new(ish) set of answers. As it happens I did buy a Pringle jumper the other day a. for work and b. because that emblem is discreetly on the upper sleeve and nowhere else. I can just about live with that! Also it was only £3.50.
Yes - 'Worry' is the wrong word, but we do think a lot about all this.
I don't entirely disagree, Prof - where've you been hiding yo'self by the way? - but I think a touch of elitism is fairly inevitable. It's not my story, but the 'Crombies' thread neatly illustrates a point here. We have an example of nebbish skinhead in the Ivy Shop, but then a bit of down to earth defending of the copies: points of view there kind of collide. Step into J. Simons with an attitude, though - or a decent Saville Row tailors - you'll get looked down upon. And rightly so IMO. Swallow a slice of 'umble pie they'll perhaps be nice to you.
Alex Roest's approach is probably best. The guy is simply an individualist, untouched by much of this. Well worth a chat, our Alex.
I rate Alex too.
The 'Facey' attitude is the hardest thing for most of our online chums to get their heads round I think.
London Pride & all that.
Last edited by Prof Kelp (2009-04-25 11:33:24)
I imagine what looks cool and smart in London, is the same thing that looks lame and boring over here.
http://www.leoslyrics.com/listlyrics.php?hid=VnYi3H%2Bsod8%3D
The Americans may never get it.
It's not their fault and it doesn't matter.
In abstract terms, we owe them anyway. For all kinds of things.
But UK Ivy was born and raised under complex and difficult circumstances. It's sociological. Modernists dwell in a world lacking sharp edges.
Well, since Ivy in London is a very underground phenomenon only subtle cool will count I think and not necessarily cool full stop. I'd be interested in the description ( or perhaps a pic ) of an IL outfit e.g. GG or Chris think(s) looks particularly smart within the London clique. We'll see if that is indeed considered lame and boring afterwards by the Americans on here. So how about it gents ?
Last edited by Alex Roest (2009-04-27 03:58:31)
Of interest.
But why is Alex so hung up on the internet Americans?
Only a handful know this subject.
Last edited by Alex Roest (2009-04-27 06:14:47)
I'm sure it's not an actual jihad, Alex, but I'm partly in agreement with you. Some of the Americans do take a lofty tone - but then so do the Brits - on occasion, on occasion!
AQG can often be very amusing IMO, and one or two of the other Stateside lads are good value for money. Jimbo can be a naughty boy when he's in the mood, but it's only his way of getting us to love him for himself and not the contents of his attic...
Last edited by Alex Roest (2009-04-27 06:12:55)