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#1 2006-09-11 11:51:45

Miles Away
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Ivy Shops...

1) There was a shop in Chatham, Mass., down on the South Cape that was never open when I was there (OK, I was usually there late on Saturday to late on Sunday moving on through).
It always had a single item in its window display - I remember a Woolrich Parka especially on a tailor's dummy. When was that? October of '90 again?
It was a small white painted shop in the nice residential part of town as you walked from the Bow Roof House down to the beach.
Can't remember its name & always intended to go back and visit it.
I never did.

2) J. Press on Mount Auburn St. Cambridge has the most 'Ivy' interior IMHO... Well, it had back in the eighties. Has it changed much? Long tables with shirts arranged in wooden boxes on them standing on wonderfully plain and untreated bare floorboards...
Lovely old wooden fixtures in the shop and young-ish sales men in tweed jackets who actually knew their stuff. Imagine! Young & knowledgeable!
In the same way that that 'Minet 'shop in Paris I wrote about must have influenced John Simons' 'Squire' shop in the '60's in London, J. Press in Cambridge must have influenced him in his decor for his current J. Simons shop.
Pure Campus Cool.
Press in NYC was very different. More sphisticated. Not quite so charming maybe. More 'big city'.

Andover in Cambridge always smelled good... Warm and rich in a subdued way.
Brooks on Madison was like a cathedral of TNSIL...
Brooks in Boston had an upstairs suit department which was like a library... Hushed, orderly, serious. Again very nice dark wooden fixtures... What else would you expect?

... And then there was The Crimson Shop -

I'll do that one next.

M.


" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.

 

#2 2006-09-12 11:18:08

Miles Away
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Re: Ivy Shops...

I lied.

This is about the Harvard Coop -

Brooks made BDs for them in the 'Blue Script label' years - White, Blue, Pink.
The label was 'The Coop made Expressly by Brooks Brothers' I think (Too lazy to check right now). A bargain.
Did Brooks make sportscoats & suits for them also under the old Red/Black Coop label? They certainly had a Brooksy look. I can't back up that theory though.
Hathaway & Sero shirts I seem to remember in the store also... is that right?
LOTS of Haspel suits at give-away prices. I bought a Slate Grey poplin there.
VERY nice salesmen of a certain age in suits with wonderful Yankee faces who couldn't say anything without it being full of old-world charm... "Heh, heh, heh - If you lean on that you're going to fall over, heh, heh, heh" etc.
Shoes: Did they have Bostonian, Johnson & Murphy, Walkover?
I remember Bucks anyway, but no Saddle shoes. And no chalk bags to clean the Bucks - " I guess we just let 'em get dirty, heh, heh, heh".
I remember the main part of the Coop as a big, square, high, wood-filled room.
Shoes and clothes had one corner at my time of visiting there.
It was a bit of a hit & miss place and my friends and I were a bit sniffy about it being for 'students' - we were Brooks fans & then Press fans as time rolled on. A bit snobbish. We even used to look down a bit at the Uber-Trad Crimson Shop.

Which brings me to my next reminiscence...

M.


" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.

 

#3 2006-09-12 19:10:09

jmorgan32
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#4 2006-09-12 19:25:28

Marc Grayson
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Great traditional store, long gone, sadly, and the name forgotten, on Sixth Ave. near West Fourth Street in NYC, where I purchased my first Burberry trench, at a time when Burberry was still "a Burberry."  The only store I knew of at the time that stocked dark green Burberrys in size extra long.  Anyone remember the name of this shop?


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#5 2006-09-13 00:55:53

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Re: Ivy Shops...

Last edited by Miles Away (2006-09-13 00:56:25)


" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.

 

#6 2006-09-14 03:19:51

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Re: Ivy Shops...

Finally posted on 'The Crimson Shop' over on the 'I remember...' thread.

This one is on 'Stuart Shine Northern New England Menswear' -

A small, dark, dusty place on the road to LL. Bean in Freeport, Maine. Yarmouth or Falmouth I'd guess. Probably Yarmouth.
I'm assuming the shop was called 'Stuart Shine' based on what I assume to be the own-make labels in some foulard ties I bought there.
It wasn't a 'Trad' shop - just a run-of-the-mill, middle-brow, middle-class menswear shop. The sort of place a clerk just starting out would buy a navy or a grey suit. The decor was neglected late '60's/'70's? Something like that. The counter was one of those glass-fronted, glass topped jobs covered in scratches with shelves inside displaying white evening scarves with dust on them and cheap looking cuff-links...
But if you looked hard enough mixed in with all the European styled stuff it had some lovely things - Trad blazers & some Tweeds, BD's and...
The most fantastic foulard ties I'd ever seen.
'Fantastic' is a relative term I know. These ties WERE cheap and used pretty low-ish grade silk, but the colours were perfect. I've seen nothing elsewhere to this day in the US or UK (including Jermyn Street) that looked so 'Trad' to my eye.
I've 2 remaining & they're pretty ratty but still wearable -
1) My favourite: An Olive background with Perfect Trad Pink and Bottle Green, with a fine smokey Grey outline to the repeated figures.
2) Dark blue background with mid-Blue and THAT Grey again, with an almost-not-there Yellowy-Gold outilne to the pattern.
At times like this being able to post photos would help a lot.
Somehow these ties struck me as being especially 'American' in look. As ever, I have no idea exactly what I mean by that. They just didn't look 'English' to me.

I don't know, but 'Stuart Shine' might have been part of a chain. There was one youngish sales man in a blazer in the shop who looked really fed-up. We chatted to him and he told us of his low opinion of the LL Bean 'look' and how if he could shop in Europe he wouldn't be shopping here etc.
I think he thought we were slightly mad.
Wonder if the shop is still there?
Wonder if he ever made it to Europe?
I hope so.

Miles.

(These posts of mine are starting to turn into fire-side chats. I must get back to normal. Bilko anyone?)


" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.

 

#7 2007-07-10 11:55:36

Terry Lean
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Re: Ivy Shops...

Bump?

Now that we have more of those 'in the know' over here do please add anything you might like here.


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