For me:
Uncle George for the Jazz & that first sight of The Look on those LP sleeves.
Big Jim & Paddy for directing my feet down Russell Street & Madison Avenue.
John Simons, Ian Strachan, John Lally - And Jeff & Ken too.
Nameless American shop assistants.
Chris_H on the internet & Richmond Hill, plus the input of John Gall, My mate Andy, Jesmond, HBH, Moose, Aljazz, The Weejun and the list then just goes on and on and on.
All people who've inspired me & moved me on.
Who's on your list? This might be a nice place to thank them.
My old man - Uncle George influence: jazz, Blue Note, Graham Marsh, torching.
John Simons, Jeff and Ken, who were kind to a know-nothing.
The artist known as 'Russell Street', who delighted and infuriated me in equal measure before I decided to go against my Marxist principles and join the club (no, not Karl, dummy, Groucho)...
A few on here: Chris_H, Brideshead, Kingstonian (a man who never minces words), Richmond Hill, Hank, Alex, John Gall (serious-minded bugger that he is), Hill Rise (come out, come out, wherever you are...)... and one or two of the rebel lads up there on Capitol Hill, who shall remain nameless...
Patricia Bosworth, who introduced me, at the tender age of 18, to the magical words 'Brooks Brothers'.
Many people who I've never met and most likely never will: the man whose raincoat I am, John Lally, Paddy and Jim, Charlie Davidson, Boyer, Birmingham, Jeff Kwintner, the students wandering around in the rain on 'Take Ivy'...
Is the 'mentoring' thing uniquely English? I ask because I've noticed this phenomenon on a couple of scenes over here. A hangover of the age old apprentice system perhaps?
Not trying to be inflammatory: I'm asking this question in earnest.
Last edited by Natural Sole Brother (2009-05-14 08:04:38)
Interesting.
Older Faces saw me & came to talk.
Take them out of my story and where would I be?
"Trads" always say that their Dad taught them. In London your "Ivy Dad" is a new Mate who's been there before you.
... Mainly?
Last edited by Russell_Street (2009-05-14 06:08:23)
my father: flat fronts with sharp creases, mid century black music
my mother:making us wear Bean when when we were children
The only two non-bonehead skinheads I knew in Florida Jeff and Ian: convinced me indirectly to stop wearing BDUs and black t-shirts at the tender age of 16. Also introduced me to Fred Perry, check shirts, doc martens. Convinced me you could be into aggressive music and still look sharp.
Most my discovery of Brooks, Press, etc. was done on my own, through reading and movie watching.
The members of the Talk Ivy forum as a whole: English, European, American, Misc. Everyone hear has given me things to think about and challenged what I think and know about the way I choose to dress. Also have found out about the few musical artists I missed along the way. I also might as well to take this moment to admit and thank all those who have posted pictures and/or outfit descriptions that I have have taken ideas from: Brownshoe, Tom Rath, Suitedbooted, 1966, Moose, Heikki, and last but not least the incomparable Russell Street. Special thanks to D&F for all the historical articles, and blog information I am much lazy to find on my own, and the "conversation".
^^ And another interesting comment, Mr. B.
None of this existed when I was young.
Last edited by Russell_Street (2009-05-14 06:28:54)
OK.
I just like the concept.
Let's not read too much into my desperate needs & wants!
All I wanted was a nice snug collar that really rolled...
Quim substitute?
Last edited by Russell_Street (2009-05-14 07:25:09)
Now i'm moving into my twilight years I'd rather have the Velvets than all that quim nonsense, spent far to many years thinking about all that. Now it's about finding the ultimate black roll neck for me...
Been there, wore the shirt Prof. Too fat now. As someone else wisely said on this forum, Smedley and man boobs sadly do not mix... I need a more 'forgiving' cut these days.