Equally we 'don't get' Preppy and Trad in England which is the other side to all this.

Important to state again that we are only talking about the online 'world' here - As Tom Rath and others have proved in the real America the classic Ivy style is very much alive and well. Only online do you have it mainly represented as an odd mutation of itself claiming to represent the tradition of the American look.

So do most Americans 'get' Ivy? Do most Americans even remember Ivy? Some certainly do, but online it's mainly all Preps & Trads. Different fish doncha know.

Yeah - I think we can explore all this but at the end of the day it's just a load of chat innit?

It's either this or work!