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#1 2006-09-16 01:58:58

Miles Away
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The Press Thread -

As discussed in the 'If Sacks are your Bag' thread, this a thread to keep any information on the changing J. Press cut over time all in one place.
Photos with comments are especially welcome.
Non Press items are very welcome too to provide contrast.
Please could you include the date of purchase so we can work out some sort of rough timeline.
Even just descriptions of what you have and what year they came from would also be really useful.
I'm especially interested in sportscoats, blazers and suit jackets.

Interesting details would be:
The shoulder line - How much padding they contain.
The shape of the coat - How much waist suppression there is. How closely it is cut to the body (A very relative judgement).
The button stance and lapel roll - Three to two, 3 Btn, 2 Btn, how high or low the lapel roll is.
How high the arm holes are.
The nature of the vents.

And any other onteresting details of pockets, welted seams, labels etc.

The idea is to then try to find out who the maker was for which items at what time just to increase our knowledge of the history of Press.

A final idea just for for fun might be trying to decide which cut was 'best' - Again a very relative term. Was the golden age of Press Tweeds Autumn 1992 (or whenever) for example?

It could be fun.

Miles.

Last edited by Miles Away (2006-09-19 00:45:32)


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#2 2006-09-19 00:45:09

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Re: The Press Thread -

1) Anybody know when the terms Pressidential, Presstige, and Pressclusive came in?

2) Magee's contribution to Press is an interesting area - Anybody got any experience of them over time?

3) I'm finding it hard to find any two Press jackets which are quite the same so far - Interesting stuff!

More to follow -


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#3 2006-09-21 02:53:16

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Re: The Press Thread -

Any thoughts on when the Candian makers kicked in?
All was well with the shoulders at the turn of this century, but who's to know if the jacket in question was old stock or not?
Thoughts?
(Just to prove I am still working on this!)

Miles.


" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.

 

#4 2006-09-21 08:08:53

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#5 2006-09-21 08:20:09

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Re: The Press Thread -

Thanks C.
The three different ranges all must be differently made for starters (I guess). Or is it just that they have different patterns? The workmanship is very different on each tho'. But then again that is the point - different price points, different quality. I have to say that making a study of Press gives me many more questions than answers at the moment...
Much more interesting than looking at dear old Brooks!

Cheers!


" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.

 

#6 2006-09-21 12:31:42

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#7 2006-09-21 13:06:54

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I think 2004 for Canada. I'll pin it down soon.


" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.

 

#8 2006-09-21 13:39:35

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Re: The Press Thread -

Very helpful email literally just in (sounds BS, I know):

"Press cut? There is no 'Press cut' - they were never like that in the way that Brooks were..."

Sounds spot-on to me. I think it might be a strength of Press though, and not anything to regard them as being not as Ivy as Brooks for.
Funny - Old Brooks got frozen in time, but old Press looks 'Tradder' (sp?). Press had all these tiny little evolutions which kept it alive, whereas Brooks kept going back to the old pattern books and somehow stopped looking as 'Trad' in the process...
By 'Old Brooks' I mean pre-88, and by 'Trad' I mean the backward looking aspect of TNSIL. (I am aware that every time I use the term Trad I use it in a slightly different sense as time goes on. Sorry.)
It's almost that Brooks looked back once and got stuck in a rut, but Press continually looked over its heritage and picked what it wanted to bring to the fore each season thus staying vital and interesting.

Muddy thinking again from me...


" ... Ubi bene, ibi patria, which being roughly translated means, 'Wherever there's a handout, that's for me, man.' "
Alistair Cooke. 1968.

 

#9 2006-09-21 14:01:40

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