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#1 2009-07-02 05:36:54

One Trick Pony
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Dubious, dubious...

A chance to vent your spleen. 

Jimmy's ace at playing this game!

After rugby shirts - TA-RA!

How about the average crummy pair of boat shoes?  I rather like my grubby white Sebago, but after that...

Don't you think they go terribly well with rugby shirts? 

Prep to the bone?

 

#2 2009-07-02 05:50:35

adam!
The Future
Posts: 608

Re: Dubious, dubious...

http://jackwills.com/Store/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=2271&Colour=6770&Gender=10

yummy...

 

#3 2009-07-02 06:27:24

One Trick Pony
Member
Posts: 530

Re: Dubious, dubious...

Now let's start hammering Sebago.

Specifically, some of the horrors on display in their catalogues.

 

#4 2009-07-02 07:15:48

The Beatnik
Member
Posts: 392

Re: Dubious, dubious...

I had the misfortune to wander into a large designer clothes store the other day. And there was a huge Sebago stand with all their multi-coloured boating shoes on display. As I was browsing in disbelief, the super trendy young assistant told me that "Docksiders are huge on the club scene, they are flying out..." and then he informed me "preppy is the next big look for summer and already massive in Ibiza..."
God help us all

 

#5 2009-07-02 08:12:10

One Trick Pony
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Posts: 530

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#6 2009-07-02 15:30:32

Natural Sole Brother
Ivy, naturally.
Posts: 782

Re: Dubious, dubious...

One thing i really want to unload on is that really horrible Australian waxed cotton rainwear. Anyone sporting that would, in the words of Bill Dean, need their bloody head examining.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.sierratradingpost.com/eccStoreFront/stp/product_images/87914/F_87914_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.underthesunshine.com/item/b_2266/&usg=__u980F788ATd9Z5YS0hpzc-rHNUg=&h=600&w=600&sz=59&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=eZa9gWDMsqsXcM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwilderness%2Bwear%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DG%26um%3D1

Particularly with the matching waxed hat.

Is the term "Australian Style" the world's greatest oxymoron?

Last edited by Natural Sole Brother (2009-07-02 15:35:48)

 

#7 2009-07-02 15:42:04

ScarletStreet
Member
Posts: 540

Re: Dubious, dubious...

Here is another one. Modern J. Press. Do they have anything worth a damn anymore? Their shirts aren't good quality. The fit on them is horrible. The jackets and suits I have seen didn't look that great either. The shoulders are never consistent. Some of their pants which I assume are made by Berle are okay. Even those I have had to get tailored so they fit right. The socks aren't even that great in a price/quality way. I know they have done better in the past. One of my favorite sport coats in an older Press tweed. Why are they still praised so highly?


"All men are frauds. The only difference between them is that some admit it. I myself deny it." -- H.L. Mencken

 

#8 2009-07-02 15:56:46

Natural Sole Brother
Ivy, naturally.
Posts: 782

Re: Dubious, dubious...

Press is sadly disappointing compared to it's former self. Vintage pieces from twenty years ago or so (and beyond of course) are worth picking up. I still buy the odd thing from them (the madras ties were nice this spring/summer) and I've found their customer service pretty good, but overall the merchandise is simply not worth the money, particularly the tailored clothing.

 

#9 2009-07-02 23:34:44

Moose Maclennan
Ivy Inspiration
From: Hernando's Hideaway
Posts: 4577

Re: Dubious, dubious...

 

#10 2009-07-03 00:26:08

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

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#11 2009-07-03 01:11:26

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Dubious, dubious...

Interestin' -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:American_Trad

 

#12 2009-07-03 01:27:09

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Dubious, dubious...

Things being prone to change, if not total deletion, on Wiki, here's a cut & paste:

The role of Internet trolling in the creation of the entirely artificial construct of 'Trad' should be included here in some form. The initial construct was proposed by the troll 'Harris' and then popularised online by the troll 'Russell Street'. 'Harris' was to disapear after his contradictory fabrications confused even himself and 'Russell Street' was to make an online career out of maipulating the construct to promote traditional American style in all its various manifestations and incarnations on all the websites mentioned above. He was also to manipulate the author of the Dandyism.Net blog into producing an 'Ivy' style blog and by his influence has spawned various other 'Trad' and 'Ivy' blogs. 'Russell Sreet' has long been exposed as not existing beyond being a loose collection of English 'Ivy' fans trolling the Internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HoxtonLoyal (talk • contribs) 06:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:American_Trad"

 

#13 2009-07-03 02:19:11

One Trick Pony
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Posts: 530

Re: Dubious, dubious...

Just to put the original posting into some kind of perspective, I loved my old Timberland - for as long as no one I knew was wearing them.  To me they were neither prep nor Ivy, just 'Americana', like Bean: nice, but nothing to make a fuss over.  As time passed, of course, and Timberland, Hilfiger, A&F and all the rest - Gap - became the choice of knobs (Fred Perry and Lacoste following suit, if you don't object to my saying so) one quickly turned in an alternative direction.  Never mind that the Ivy Shop or J.Simons carried on selling this and that - all right, I'm contradicting myself here a bit - because business is business, right?  But surely Press, even now, isn't quite as bad as Crew or Banana Republic (though it seems to be getting that way).  Brooks in England wouldn't be so bad if its staff knew something of the history and meaning, mm?  But, as John Simons says, they might as well be flogging potatoes.

 

#14 2009-07-03 03:38:22

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Dubious, dubious...

"J. Press is the new Gap" - No harm in saying that it was Charlie Davidson who said that.

Press could be worse though, & it probably will be before it gets better (if it ever does, Brooks has been a long time in the wilderness & shows no signs of coming back home yet...)

So whatcha gonna do? Buy vintage? Go MTM or Bespoke? Give in, give up, go stupid & turn 'Trad'?

Options, options...

 

#15 2009-07-03 03:47:03

Prof Kelp
Professor of Ivy
Posts: 1033

Re: Dubious, dubious...


http://thetownoutside.tumblr.com

 

#16 2009-07-03 03:58:28

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

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#17 2009-07-03 04:29:01

Moose Maclennan
Ivy Inspiration
From: Hernando's Hideaway
Posts: 4577

Re: Dubious, dubious...

^ Ha, I can see your People in my mind's eye already:

a college professor
a 1960s IBM employee
a guy in Redwings, Levis and Pendleton shirt
a schoolboy
a preppy tennis player
and our very own mike, bringing up the rear

brill!

 

#18 2009-07-03 04:50:57

Natural Sole Brother
Ivy, naturally.
Posts: 782

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#19 2009-07-03 04:54:40

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Dubious, dubious...

Moose is really on a roll today!  Top Man!

 

#20 2009-07-03 05:55:11

One Trick Pony
Member
Posts: 530

Re: Dubious, dubious...

Woolrich have also grown worthy of a kicking...  even Pendleton...

 

#21 2009-07-04 00:53:45

Horace
Member
Posts: 6436

Re: Dubious, dubious...


""This is probably the last Deb season...because of the stock market, the economy, Everything..." - W. Stillman.

 

#22 2009-07-04 01:46:38

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Dubious, dubious...

"'Harris' was to disapear after his contradictory fabrications confused even himself..."

 

#23 2009-07-04 01:48:05

Taylor McIntyre
Son of Ivy...
Posts: 342

Re: Dubious, dubious...

"'Russell Sreet' has long been exposed as not existing"

 

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