Film Noir Buff Style Forum / Vineyard Vines

One Trick Pony · 2009-07-03 12:50:28

Is this brand starting to find its way into the UK? Pure preppie schtick IMO, their cords are just about okay; not as good as Bill's. I tend to look to cords for either sitting around in as an alternative to jeans or chinos or for work when I don't feel like wearing a suit and tie. You know that awful phrase 'smart casual'? I suspect they're on the Gap/Crew/Banana Republic level.

Taylor McIntyre · 2009-07-03 13:42:04

I can't judge as I live in a bubble. I know the brand as shit that plays with 'Preppy' and got picked up on by the 'Trad' boys (bless 'em).

Who knows VV in the UK without being a student of all this?

One Trick Pony · 2009-07-03 13:56:50

Aye, well, would John Simons consider stocking them? Or rather, perhaps, would he have? Funny what found its way into 2 Russell Street. Joking apart, I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't appear to have been run up by some half blind bint working by candlelight for next to nothing. All right, maybe I shouldn't have expected 'Made in the USA' in 2009, thus - caveat emptor? Who makes really shit hot cords anyway? Or shit hot anything for that matter?

adam! · 2009-07-03 17:08:21

Vineyard Vines in the UK, i think, would be the signs of the most sussed of "preps".

Those "real" prep brands(VV, Murray's Toggery Reds, even JW. M. Mills) are unheard of in Britain(London atleast...) within the younger JW/A&F/Hollister crowd, so any that new about it, i would consider deeply sussed on their chosen style.

Horace · 2009-07-04 00:43:55

VV=dumb Southern fraternity kids A least that's the image I have of it. I know it's supposed to be all Cape-Coddy and whatnot, but maybe I'm biased by the chums on the forums who've sported it back in the BBR days.

ScarletStreet · 2009-07-04 14:23:43

That is still pretty much who wears it, Horace. Of course an upstart company Southern Proper has come along to compete for the frat douche wear market. This time taking "symbols of the south" and trivializing them as a brand. I find it odd that so many of these suburban types who happen to reside south of the Mason-Dixon fancy themselves good ole boys.

One Trick Pony · 2009-07-04 16:32:14

Okay, then it might just work in England, for a while, in the same way Timberland or Carharrt did. Fine.

ScarletStreet · 2009-07-04 17:05:18

Yeah I could see that. I use to get frustrated at some of the comments about FP and Harringtons etc. I think the more I interact with you guys via the forum the more I understand it. It's really no different than how I feel about certain aspects or brands of the Ivy look that were co-opted by the Prep trends/Trad forum over here. How one could adopt certain trade mark items and be an instant member of some subculture or clique. I also think that some of us on this side arrived at an Ivy look based on a lot of English influences. Trying to really get to the bottom of certain elements of Mod, Skin, whatever made us realize the actual source of button-downs, and where certain types of footwear came from. I think D&F mentioned being influenced by the Specials initially. LL Bean had always been around my house but I started wearing button downs and polos because of two kids I met who were obsessed with looking like traditional English skinheads. If I hadn't had these influences I probably would of never bothered to learn about Ivy. Its sort of interesting how this thing works sometimes. Brooks Brothers purported to be English influenced American clothing. Yet it was obviously as seen as wholly American when some of you started wearing it over there.

Taylor McIntyre · 2009-07-05 00:40:12

Great post, SS. You sum it all up very well.

Horace · 2009-07-05 00:42:32

Horace · 2009-07-05 00:43:43

Taylor McIntyre · 2009-07-05 00:54:37

^ Fantastic point. We're all Mid-Atlantic men?

Horace · 2009-07-05 00:58:16

Taylor McIntyre · 2009-07-05 01:10:30

Let's see.

ScarletStreet · 2009-07-05 01:27:38

There was England. Sorry for the confusion.

Taylor McIntyre · 2009-07-05 01:45:22

^ Which makes absolute sense to me.

One Trick Pony · 2009-07-05 02:36:40

I'm often alluding to the harmless snobbery of obscurity, of not wanting what everyone else has got. That's why Levi-Strauss were so important to the early mods, and why Fred Perry is no longer an option - unless, like Burberrys', it can be partially rescued from the wrong uns' grip. The country starts being flooded by VV, brother, they get used for doing the decorating.

ScarletStreet · 2009-07-05 02:43:38

I think we have this in common. That's what I was getting at. The specific brands and clothes are naturally going to be different, but I think the line of reasoning is the same.

EDIT: Spelling

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Coolidge · 2009-07-05 21:12:20

I have one VV item, it's a print tie for my college which the bookstore sells...they have done them for the whole NESCAC now.

Not a bad tie, nothing great either. Most of their stuff is a little over the top.

Though I don't own one, I do like the polo shirts, I think the whale looks good in the crocodile and pony menagerie.

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