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#1 2009-07-04 00:35:51

Horace
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New biog. of Fred Perry

Anyone read the new biography of Fred Perry?  It's out in London but not yet in New York.

A lot of sartorial shit, for those who like that sort of thing.  Including his ideas for what he'd put on a shirt before the laurels were settled upon.

Let me see if I can find the review I just read a week or two ago.


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#2 2009-07-04 00:40:36

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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

No, but I remember flicking through one a few years ago.  There's little doubt in my mind that Lacoste, if push comes to shove, is classier.  The FP polo shirt was something to aspire to 35 and more years ago, but the brand has now lost all credibility.  I should very much like to see an example, though, of what Johnny Moke is said to have been wearing in the late 50s.

 

#3 2009-07-04 00:45:28

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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

I can't see aspiring to a brand, but I think the slim cut and the quality of the shirts that I bought last year were superlative.  The fabric, the stitching, everything was pretty good.  I wouldn't mind comparing them to other ENglish-made pique shirts like SUnspel though, which I haven't tried.  (Only t-shirts).


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#4 2009-07-04 01:38:03

Taylor McIntyre
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#5 2009-07-04 03:30:52

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#6 2009-07-05 01:01:00

Horace
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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

Yes, I think it was a pipe.  I'll have to find the review.


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#7 2009-07-05 06:07:34

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#8 2009-07-05 06:31:47

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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

... And a White Fred Perry pops up in 'Love Story' during the Squash scene, sported by a young Ryan.

- So was an FP an exotic English import loaded with cache for our American Preppy/Ivy/Whatever brothers?

Looks that way. Maybe...

Did they wear it and feel in a certain way a bit like me in a Brooks button-down walking through Soho nearly a quarter of a century ago?

 

#9 2009-07-05 06:46:24

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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

That's how I imagine it, RS. Part of our Atlantic cross cultural exchange. Totemic items taken out of their 'home' context and thus given another (double?) meaning or significance. Perhaps our esteemed American friends can advise?

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#10 2009-07-05 07:12:37

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

I'd love to know.

 

#11 2009-07-05 08:16:59

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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

I've been kind of straining to tell whether or not it is the laurel wreath on the shirt Bobby Kennedy's wearing in a photograph on board a boat.  I guess it might have had a quite complex resonance back then: taken from the tennis court into other areas of leisure, then worn around - not unlike Lacoste, spotted here and there in the movies.  FP might have been more of a luxury item than Lacoste - if the likes of Izod didn't get their mitts on it. 
I reckon on looking at Grass Court.  Meanwhile I've invested in a 100 per cent cotton US Marine Corps Signal Unit example: only £7.  If, by any stretch of the imagination, I could get my hands on something like the one Staceyboy shows us above I'd be chuffed.  'Old school' Fred Perry remains all right, but only just.  But the chavs have been into the dodgier aspects of the brand for too many years now: to the extent that seeing Andy Murray wearing it makes me smile a bit. 
I used to pick up nice, English made examples from charity shops a few years back, but now anything 'vintage' seems to be coming from the Far East or, sometimes, Portugal.

 

#12 2009-07-07 00:50:20

Horace
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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

^^^ I haven't read Privileged Life but want to flip through it.  English to the "preppy set" in US had or perhaps still has a host of connotations -- most all of them good or at least desirable. 

The FP I've seen in the USA has been made in England as far as 6 months ago.   

I do like that hint o' the tennis tail on the FP above.  I remember that back being longer on US offerings:  old Bean, Brooks, and countless private label shirts.  Tres prep and whatnot.


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#13 2009-07-07 01:52:10

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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

I wonder if English made FP still exists, but for export only, the company safe in the knowledge that English kids in 2009 will wear any old gubbins.

 

#14 2009-07-07 02:11:46

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#15 2009-07-07 03:26:20

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#16 2009-07-21 10:28:32

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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

interestingly, I think the Japanese FP line is more interesting anything else from the brand, and not avail anywhere but Japan.  (not talking about the Made in Japan polos either)

hoping to bring some of it back when I am in Tokyo this fall

 

#17 2009-07-24 02:43:51

Horace
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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

^^^ It's made in England?

I like a lot of the Japanese interpretations of classic Ivy style but often there something that's not quite right about it.  LIke it's too perfect.  Better than the original.  It's like some sort of virtual reality trip.


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#18 2009-07-24 05:49:07

Taylor McIntyre
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Re: New biog. of Fred Perry

CGI Trad.

 

#19 2009-07-24 07:21:20

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