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#476 2011-03-05 08:34:32

Big Tony
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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#477 2011-03-05 08:59:51

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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)

Peak oil, as in the easy, easy to get at oil has already happened. This is fact.

New technologies as Formby states will alleviate some of the pressure on reserves and as the oil price increases, the tar sands and the Arctic shelf will become more viable. And the Third Reich managed to fly the ME-652 jet from aviation fuel refined from coal, there are massive coal reserves left. Nevertheless, as regards to the mega fields waiting to be tapped, we have the deep water finds off Brazil and the Arctic which will become readily available when the ice melts. And that is really all that is left as untapped reserves.

You just need to look at ExxonMobil's annual report for 2010 and 90% of the proven reserves have been purchased through acquisitions. They're not acquiring much through exploration.

This is the second oil shock, brought about by peak oil and unrest in the Middle East. In any event, supply will soon outstrip demand (of easy oil), some will be denied access and they must suffer economically or wage war. Or may be the benign market will usher in equilibrium and a golden age of alternative energies, not I am afraid at current world population levels.


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#478 2011-03-05 09:46:02

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#479 2011-03-05 09:53:32

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#480 2011-03-05 14:22:59

formby
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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#481 2011-03-05 20:39:32

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#482 2011-03-06 15:58:00

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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)

Madoff: "the whole government is a ponzi scheme" (paraphrase)

Last edited by Big Tony (2011-03-06 16:21:18)


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#483 2011-03-08 15:41:54

Big Tony
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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)

friends of friends just got back from Florida where the family has a condo, they said you could buy any property you wanted as everything seemed to be up for sale, the hotels and motels are full as people are living in them after losing their homes, kids line up in the morning outside the hotels and motels to catch the school bus


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#484 2011-03-10 11:26:38

Big Tony
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"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#485 2011-03-10 17:19:02

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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)

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#486 2011-03-11 02:15:30

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#487 2011-03-13 01:37:56

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Filth in high places, looks like the author doesn't like the Prince encroaching in on his patch:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/8375011/Stephen-Days-letter-Royal-envoys-are-crass-and-insulting.html


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#488 2011-03-13 03:18:40

formby
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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#489 2011-03-13 04:35:47

fxh
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#490 2011-03-16 06:17:12

Big Tony
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"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#491 2011-03-16 06:47:59

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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)

I might go in there for $20M, tax free, to the name of my kid.

Having thought about, no, not even that.

 

#492 2011-03-16 11:44:19

RSS
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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)

How low will it go?  I thought we were talking about another forum or two.

 

#493 2011-03-16 17:00:59

Big Tony
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Just watched the Newshour and the footage from Japan is astounding: incredible damage to pretty much everything along the one coast. The Emperor was wearing a grey-on-grey-with-grey-and-some-grey outfit.


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#494 2011-03-16 19:50:00

fxh
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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)

I've got a briefing here on China's Economic Outlook from Credit Suisse. Now accepting they are flogging a product - theres no reason to disbelieve some of the data.

A few bits with slight interpretation by me:

Since 2000 there has been a surge in minimum wages of between 15% to 37% (ignoring outliers) depending on area.

Big concern about upward wage pressure and transport costs in China

Inflation running at about 6% in China

Headline CPI = around 10% - food CPI=4%

1 year deposit rate = 4.5% Real rate = -0.8% or so

1 Year lending rate= 7.66%

Growth rate prediction = Moderate

There is now a massive reversal of agricultural labour to non agricultural labour - eg Rural to city.

There is a 17.5M gap between demand and supply for Labour. Shortfall of labour.

Prediction - explosion in low end consumption
Ongoing inflation
Housing upgrade
Increased investment in automation and machinery

 

#495 2011-03-16 20:02:19

Maximilien de Robespierre
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#496 2011-03-17 01:26:41

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Vibe-Rations in Spectra-Sonic-Sound

 

#497 2011-03-17 16:06:33

Big Tony
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NPR had an interview today with some young (Western) reporter in Japan. He travelled to an area outside Tokyo and the roads were clear but the area had zero food or supplies. He said the locals were fuming mad at the government for making no attempt to supply them, despite being an easy drive from Tokyo; the Japanese people apparently don't complain openly about their government, but the reporter has lived there for several years and said he could tell they are mad.


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

#498 2011-03-18 12:14:03

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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)

Interestingly, the UK media has been burying stories and live updates on the radiation situation since yesterday.  Its all okay, like smoking a menthol cigarette.


Vibe-Rations in Spectra-Sonic-Sound

 

#499 2011-03-18 13:33:11

Maximilien de Robespierre
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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)

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#500 2011-03-18 15:40:55

Big Tony
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Re: How Low will it Go? (Dow touched down to 7882 so far)


"What sort of post-apocalyptic deathscape is this?"
"I don't want to look like a cock hungry sailor after all !!!"
"When it comes to infidelity, broken families, and reckless fatherhood, the underclass are amateurs."

 

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