I had the pleasure to meet Paul went I dropped by the shop to have a chat with Guy over the summer. Very nice gentleman and he definately knows his stuff.

The hip hop connection is an interesting thing to someone like me who is the same age as paul. The jazz influence ran quite hard through any decent hip hop of the 90's and no doubt as your tastes grew broader there seemed to be no better period for the sounds and styles of mid 50s to mid 60s

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Keydge is more so Chinese (it seems) than so what (which version BTW?)  Tootal is for keeping in touch with your Inner Mod.

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Good hip hop didn't die in 1992. But this isn't the time or the place. Trip-hop also dug deep into the vaults. This was way gateway drug.

What I meant was that big wave of mainstream stuff got to The Chronic broke and rolled back. Of course many other good groups carried on doing what they did well and others came through who had an interesting vision. But where hip hop was going changed after The Chronic and the vast majority of acts got bogged down in the mire that Hip Hop's become.

THe same thing's been seen in UK grime over the past few years. Dizzee Rascal made it big and opened that door now we have Diet Grime with no edge and the good stuff is down deep and hard to find.

Just for the record I like Hip Hop and Grime and Modern Jazz and Bebop equally. It's all part of the same long strand for me. Maybe I don't appreciate it like a lot of you more sophisticated chaps but I'm not embarassed to like any of it. You'd all love a bit of G-Funk if you had it pumped into your lugs.

I used to roll extremely deep in the rap game, word up.  Triple beam kna'mean?  Talk Ivy's resident authority on that boom bap.  Heikki's post was fairly on point.  My interest in rap started waning around 1996.  As hip hop became more mainstream, the whole scene started changing.

Marlowe flipped the script.

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Jim get madlib's medicine show hi-jazz album. There is a lot of good work that crosses from instrumental hiphop into jazz. Cinematic orchestra being the most obvious but even that is a bit old hat now. I'll in box you some stuff jim.

Isn't that from the utterly disturbing vybz cartel?                                                                             My friend mcm who as part of caveman was the first british rapper to get signed to a major label and have world release i think this was back in 91, anyway he has the largest collection of jazz vinyl i've ever seen, to many what you'd call true hip hopper it was a love of music and particulary jazz that spurred them to create hip hop and rap. It was an education to me in order to delve deeper

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One strictly for Marlowe: http://www.oipolloi.com/the-wallabee-kingpin