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#126 2012-02-05 07:48:54

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#127 2012-02-05 08:02:46

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#128 2012-02-05 08:06:22

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#129 2012-02-05 08:20:47

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"I've played dumb so long it's the only way I know." Me, 2012.

 

#130 2012-02-05 08:28:04

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Note: I gave the firing squad episode a tiny bit of a Hollywood makeover but the essence is honestly true!


"I've played dumb so long it's the only way I know." Me, 2012.

 

#131 2012-02-05 08:57:08

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If you aren't seeing through all three eyes at once day and night you are up shit creek without a paddle. The Shooman

 

#132 2012-02-05 08:57:25

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When you call Dostoevsky a genius, do you mean Bruce Forsyth type Genius or are you speaking out of context again?

 

#133 2012-02-05 10:25:39

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#134 2012-02-05 11:53:25

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#135 2012-02-05 13:14:24

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#136 2012-02-05 13:35:11

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Come to think of it, what's the alternative?  And when was the last time a Labour frontbencher uttered the 'S' word in public?  Even Balls seems to want nothing better than 'a more caring capitalism', rather than letting the market rip.  The Labour Party was useless even by the time MacDonald got his hands on it - although it continued to attract people of extraordinary ability.  It was pathetic at a local level, especially in London, by 1939-40.  Its members now are often a joke.  Just watch Conference this year.  Well-meaning idiots duped by smug women like Caroline Flint.

 

#137 2012-02-05 13:42:20

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All the political parties are owned and corrupt, the coalition is no different.

One only needs to look at the Met Police Force - no democracy with values of justice would tolerate its sleaze.

There is no alternative, its all the same rotten borough.

Well, there is one alternative, devolution of not only the nation states within the union, but of whole counties and regions too.


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#138 2012-02-05 13:45:47

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The Met - remember 'Our Friends In The North'?  "Obey the law - even though we don't". 

Not convinced that form of devolution would work, though I'm happy that the Welsh get to do some of their own business.

 

#139 2012-02-05 13:47:56

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#140 2012-02-05 13:49:35

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I suppose it highlights a big problem for (New) Labour. If the general consencus rarely critiques the suggestion that "there is no alternative", including New Labour, then they're always going to look like they lack direction or are weak - if it's a weaker version of the coalition's plans. Or at least Ed Milliband isn't a force of nature...

I can't help but think that Labour will have to properly explore the idea of a more moral/less selfish capitalism. An alternative to neo-liberalism. Of course, the current ideas put forward are largely rhetoric rather than anything stronger. It could of course lead to nothing or be unachievable. Just my random thoughts.

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#141 2012-02-05 13:59:27

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It is by no accident that the Milliband brand, and reflective of the party that chose them, that their surname is very close to millipede, a very nasty recurring motif in Burroughs cut-up novels. He was clearly cutting into the present day Labour party.


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#142 2012-02-05 14:06:40

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Better Ed Miliband than Burroughs: possibly the worst and most pretentious author of the post-war period.  Oh, but, then, of course, there was Vidal, Pynchon, Mailer, Salinger...  Ed might be out of his depth, but his heart - unlike that of his odious brother - is probably in the right place.

 

#143 2012-02-05 14:24:14

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#144 2012-02-05 14:35:54

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Yes, but will wearing a navy blazer with grey pants make me look like a Marxist security guard in a novel by Dostoevsky?

Is "Prince Myshkin" a good name for my Trad blog?


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#145 2012-02-05 14:39:54

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I suspect that, for the Soviet Union, the phrase 'Marxist-Leninist' became just a convenient smokescreen.  Not sure if a monster like Beria whispered it into the ears of the young women he raped.  What did Russia become, under Stalin?  An imperial power.  Stalin might have made a better, more traditional Tsar than poor Nicholas 11 (oh, yes, another anti-semite).  The Left doesn't exactly hold the monopoly on verbal and written abuse - but it's a pretty good practioner.  No, I'm not talking about the average Labour Party member, I'm talking (mostly) about their Trotskyite enemies.  The Right tends to be craftier.

 

#146 2012-02-05 14:40:58

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#147 2012-02-05 14:42:33

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...and on a lighter note:

Kids can no longer handle Dickens.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16896661


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#148 2012-02-05 14:48:18

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Pleased to report that, in Year Seven, my daughter wrote an extended essay on 'Northanger Abbey'.  Mostly, though, even when they do read, the books are junk.

 

#149 2012-02-05 14:55:59

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"I've played dumb so long it's the only way I know." Me, 2012.

 

#150 2012-02-05 15:00:30

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