Is it Americans or is it just people? id say both countries have been so effected by immigration through their history its difficult to pin down a national identity. I think Americans can be really elegant when they dress. Or should I say Cool? Less mini-men than Italians.. less hung up than a Brit. Actually Brits do elegance... Americans do ... well did do cool.
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I guess my complete ignorance of anything Italian, aside from Mussolini and sausage, means I'm safe.
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I like a lot about Italy. Wine, food, people, language, literature, music, art, opera...I love going there and enjoying the fruits of its culture here. But I have little use for their fashion. It's not for me is all. Some guys really pull it off well.
Yeah. I don't really do elegant. I'm too much of a ho-hum hick.
I really do like that one Italian thing. What's it called again? Spugety? And I do like that guy Danny Dinero.
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Doggy, I think you will find that there's a lot of things beyond Ivy that's thoroughly covered or at least mentioned occasionally on TI, general Americana such as Pendleton (NW), Woolrich, Eddie Bauer, LL Bean etc., Levi's and other jeans, all sorts of sneakers, workwear, hunting, hiking, fishing, sailing, tennis, golf and swimming gear from all over the US gets mentioned regularly. Lots of stuff with surfer and skateboard pics...
Re: tailored clothing there's a preference for Ivy/ natural shoulder but that doesn't mean we don't know about other traditions, we just don't care that much.
There are threads on regional differences within the US as well as threads about the styles that would compete with Ivy within the US. You're welcome to contribute! But I'm pretty sure that most people on TI (btw only about a half or two thirds of them/ us are Britons, I reckon) simply go for natural shoulder style... It's not the other way round as you twist it. Like someone wants to generally mimick American style and somehow gets it wrong.
There's also a lot about UK and Continental clothing and about Japan as long as it fits the bill.
I agree that there's sometimes too much a focus on the Boom Years but I'm sure we've covered about every decade of the 20th century without everybody getting wild about period dressing a la Fedora Lounge.
The boys are riled up.
Yes... The Non-American appreciation of classic American style has the slight quirk that you have to actually appreciate classic American style to appreciate the Non-American appreciation of it. It IS different to the American appreciation of their own style and how could it not be?
The Non-American appreciation begins and ends with aesthetics for those actually into the clothes. You either like the look or you don't.
Frustratingly simple, isn't it ?
Some Americans also just like the style and are also able to disassociate it with all the hype and baggage around it. You don't tend to hear from them much online, however...
God forbid that clothes should ever just be clothes, eh? What would all the windbags talk about all day?
I think its just all fall out from chens and jim... TI always has had a healthy dose of Americans and a toxic dose of a person that shouldve just settled on a job in the civil service.
Hmmmm - But to establish the forum it had to have a definite identity and a unique stance - Nothing 'Trad' or 'Preppy', that was all being done elsewhere.
It had to have die-hard 'Ivyists'.
That's how you establish things. Now the forum is more than up and running it can more expansive. It's a process.
It's all the same tricks I used to conjure up the 'Trad' forum. And, Lordy, how expansive that place is now... But it suits a certain demographic.
Without these processes there would be no forums.