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#51 2013-08-10 13:39:43

Bop
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Re: Differences between American and English style

Is it Americans or is it just people? id say both countries have been so effected by immigration through their history its difficult to pin down a national identity. I think Americans can be really elegant when they dress. Or should I say Cool? Less mini-men than Italians.. less hung up than a Brit. Actually Brits do elegance... Americans do ... well did do cool.

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#52 2013-08-10 14:07:43

formby
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Re: Differences between American and English style


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

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#53 2013-08-10 15:07:22

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Re: Differences between American and English style


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#54 2013-08-10 15:09:22

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Re: Differences between American and English style


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#55 2013-08-10 15:10:22

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Re: Differences between American and English style


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#56 2013-08-10 15:28:20

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Re: Differences between American and English style

I guess my complete ignorance of anything Italian, aside from Mussolini and sausage, means I'm safe.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#57 2013-08-10 15:34:23

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Re: Differences between American and English style

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Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#58 2013-08-10 15:36:50

formby
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Re: Differences between American and English style


"Dressing, like painting, should have a residual stability, plus punctuation and surprise." - Richard Merkin

Souvent me Souvient

 

#59 2013-08-10 15:50:58

Worried Man
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Re: Differences between American and English style


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#60 2013-08-10 15:55:18

Jeff Reed
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Re: Differences between American and English style

I like a lot about Italy. Wine, food, people, language, literature, music, art, opera...I love going there and enjoying the fruits of its culture here. But I have little use for their fashion. It's not for me is all. Some guys really pull it off well.

 

#61 2013-08-10 15:56:19

Worried Man
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Re: Differences between American and English style

Yeah. I don't really do elegant.  I'm too much of a ho-hum hick.


"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#62 2013-08-10 15:57:24

Worried Man
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Re: Differences between American and English style

I really do like that one Italian thing.  What's it called again?  Spugety?  And I do like that guy Danny Dinero.

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"We close our sto' at a reasonable hour because we figure anybody who would want one of our suits has got time to stroll over here in the daytime." - VP of George Muse Clothing, Atlanta, 1955

 

#63 2013-08-10 16:00:25

Jeff Reed
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Re: Differences between American and English style

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#64 2013-08-10 16:01:29

Russell...Street
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Re: Differences between American and English style

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42R | 16.5/34 | 34/30 | US 10D/UK 9.5E
"Horses, horses... horseshit!"

“As honest as you can expect a man to be in a world where its going out of style.”  - Raymond Chandler

 

#65 2013-08-10 17:17:32

Russell...Street
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Re: Differences between American and English style

Doggy, I think you will find that there's a lot of things beyond Ivy that's thoroughly covered or at least mentioned occasionally on TI, general Americana such as Pendleton (NW), Woolrich, Eddie Bauer, LL Bean etc., Levi's and other jeans, all sorts of sneakers, workwear, hunting, hiking, fishing, sailing, tennis, golf and swimming gear from all over the US gets mentioned regularly. Lots of stuff with surfer and skateboard pics...


Re: tailored clothing there's a preference for Ivy/ natural shoulder but that doesn't mean we don't know about other traditions, we just don't care that much.
There are threads on regional differences within the US as well as threads about the styles that would compete with Ivy within the US. You're welcome to contribute! But I'm pretty sure that most people on TI (btw only about a half or two thirds of them/ us are Britons, I reckon) simply go for natural shoulder style... It's not the other way round as you twist it. Like someone wants to generally mimick American style and somehow gets it wrong.


There's also a lot about UK and Continental clothing and about Japan as long as it fits the bill.



I agree that there's sometimes too much a focus on the Boom Years but I'm sure we've covered about every decade of the 20th century without everybody getting wild about period dressing a la Fedora Lounge.


42R | 16.5/34 | 34/30 | US 10D/UK 9.5E
"Horses, horses... horseshit!"

“As honest as you can expect a man to be in a world where its going out of style.”  - Raymond Chandler

 

#66 2013-08-10 17:24:49

Russell...Street
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Re: Differences between American and English style


42R | 16.5/34 | 34/30 | US 10D/UK 9.5E
"Horses, horses... horseshit!"

“As honest as you can expect a man to be in a world where its going out of style.”  - Raymond Chandler

 

#67 2013-08-10 18:28:22

doghouse
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Re: Differences between American and English style

The boys are riled up.


Hide thy infants, hide thy Lady, and hide thy husband, alas they art forcing sexual intercourse upon the entire populace. - Wm Shakespeare

 

#68 2013-08-10 18:45:43

Film Noir Buff
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Re: Differences between American and English style

 

#69 2013-08-10 18:46:51

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#70 2013-08-10 18:49:30

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Re: Differences between American and English style

 

#71 2013-08-11 03:57:36

Russell...Street
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Re: Differences between American and English style


42R | 16.5/34 | 34/30 | US 10D/UK 9.5E
"Horses, horses... horseshit!"

“As honest as you can expect a man to be in a world where its going out of style.”  - Raymond Chandler

 

#72 2013-08-11 04:47:20

Topstitcher
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Re: Differences between American and English style

Yes... The Non-American appreciation of classic American style has the slight quirk that you have to actually appreciate classic American style to appreciate the Non-American appreciation of it. It IS different to the American appreciation of their own style and how could it not be?

The Non-American appreciation begins and ends with aesthetics for those actually into the clothes. You either like the look or you don't.

Frustratingly simple, isn't it ?

Some Americans also just like the style and are also able to disassociate it with all the hype and baggage around it. You don't tend to hear from them much online, however...

God forbid that clothes should ever just be clothes, eh?  What would all the windbags talk about all day?

wink


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#73 2013-08-11 04:57:28

Armchaired
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Re: Differences between American and English style


�Careful with that axe Eugene.�

 

#74 2013-08-11 05:38:32

Bop
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Re: Differences between American and English style

I think its just all fall out from chens and jim... TI always has had a healthy dose of Americans and a toxic dose of a person that shouldve just settled on a job in the civil service.

 

#75 2013-08-11 05:38:56

Topstitcher
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Re: Differences between American and English style

Hmmmm - But to establish the forum it had to have a definite identity and a unique stance - Nothing 'Trad' or 'Preppy', that was all being done elsewhere.

It had to have die-hard 'Ivyists'.

That's how you establish things. Now the forum is more than up and running it can more expansive.  It's a process.

It's all the same tricks I used to conjure up the 'Trad' forum. And, Lordy, how expansive that place is now... But it suits a certain demographic.

Without these processes there would be no forums.


What the world needs now is love, sweet love... And a jolly good kick up the harris.

 

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