Should have linked these to the York article:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B2a6l6wM2k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMThz7eQ6K0

On a different note, but same period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgCZN1rU5co

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Hep - the original idea was your own and I especially liked the description of Bliar! I never could stand him and I just don't understand how more people didn't see through him and Brown and Mandy - especially when the very sincere John Smith was still more than a distant memory. It's hard to pinpoint the time when politicians thought that there was vote-gain mileage in dumbing themselves down and giving people what they think that they want rather than what they need - and it has not been confined to Britain either - look at the USA and chunks of Europe: Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Portugal, Italy and so on. Maybe there will be a change one day but I don't think that Farrage has much oomph (unfortunately) and this is reflected in the fact that he looks more like Worsel Gummage or Rab C Nesbitt than we might like; plus the way back down the Shit Creek of the EU might be more arduous than trying to make the system work. For a start there is all the regulation that flows from European diktats as well as all the financial entanglements. There would be a lot of time, effort and expense in disengaging.

What is interesting is the difference in England between the "gentleman", the "Bounder", the "Spiv" and the "dandy".

I cant go into it here but it seems like the gentleman and the dandy are separated from the other two (or at least the bounder) by a somewhat indifferent attitude in sexual appetite.

The Bounder seems to possess a voracious appetite for female company and tweaks his outfit with color and pattern to attract females. The Spiv is usually a non gentleman or a foreign passport holder pretending to be British; or worse a foreign passport holder indulging in their own tawdry, tacky taste (TTT). At most a Spiv is "gent" which is a cheap, nasty-nice imitation of a gentleman. You know the sort that tells other people they are wrong thinking they've proven they're better but accomplishing just the reverse.

Final thought for this moment: Interesting that the definition of a chap being a 'Counter Jumper' used 100% the language of retail.