I think doggie is using casual as a descriptor of a general tendency in clothing and formby is using it as a proper noun. Understandable. Its a cultural /UK thing. There were no casuals here at all iirc.

Formby I don't think doggie is referring to The Casuals or that movement. He will correct me if I'm wrong.

I think they are two different things. One, casualisation, is universal, the other, casuals, is regional specific.

Evanescent youth culture holds little interest for me; especially when it is as old hat as this.

^ Yeah, I got Expat Shield on standby because of all the UK stuff I tend to try and watch.

Sloane stuff I tangentially have heard of, I need to dig further in. Preppy in the states is what our Ivy brethern are doing for casual wear mostly. Polos, khakis, madras and boat shoes.

OK. You just lurve that tie. 'n'good fer you!,, son.. I do too. But  there 's  juswt  no ways I'm gonna get it so long as, so long as,  I got a hole in my ass.

Last edited by Dudley Clarke (2014-08-20 17:57:48)

Most excellent, I may try and track the book down soon myself, very engaging perspective.

I'm currently reading Peter Ackroyd's  London: A Biography , which I find hilarious, especially when the Middle English and Early Modern passages are worked in. Going to take a bit to get through though, so probably a decent amount of time until I get on to another book.